money 1st or after session?

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I 've found through out the many, many and costly years that the girls who give the best service are the ones who don't ask for the money up front. What do you guys think?
 
It doesn't really matter.

The reason why I say this is because most times when they will ask is because you are a first time client and they don't know you. Repeat sessions are always better because they know you already so the $$$ factor hardly plays a part, of course that "stiff the bill" factor may still be in her mind.

Some MPAs have gotten stiff before so when you give them the cash it sort of lifts the burden. Some places it doesn't matter if you have repeated they still ask for the $$$ upfront. Blame the stupid fucks that walked out without paying for setting the mood.

I find that when they ask for the $$$ during the session it actually puts a bummer into my session by breaking the mood.

VBB
 
in a way I understand why at times we are asked for money up front...but i have to agree with the fact that almost all good sessions - money is given after....

somehow when the whole issue of paying up front comes out - makes it a lil uncomfortable and makes it feel weird....the girls always try and come up with some sort of excuse for the money up front thing...to me though... what matters is service...whether i pay before or after...as long as the session goes off well....it dosent really matter..
 
a recent thread which sorta addresses the topic here

I tend to think that generally it doesn't matter, but ultimately in my experience those sessions that are taken to that overall higher plane the money was paid after.

Metaphysically speaking ... ow ...huh .. yeah yeah ... seems visiting hours are over.
 
Establishment fee up front ok, other fees nope. If I get that I leave. When I didnt used to leave I really noticed that money after was 9 times out of 10 a better session....you don't get paid at work before you have done any work right?
 
Doesn't really matter to me.

Most of the time i'm happy to give the ladies their dough up front before they even ask. Might as well get it out of the way and just get down to business. You usually settle on something upfront and cash is discussed, so why wait then? If the girl is really pushy or adament about getting her cash right away, then that's a big time turn off.

Keep it real,

NB
 
I usually stick to my regular MPAs and when I am seeking out someone new
it usually takes place in a MP which I am familiar with on its price structure
and the quality of the girls in general.

The first thing I do after I am taken into a room is to leave the tip
at a spot where the girl will notice. Then I proceed to take a shower and
lie down on the table. When my regular comes in they usually don't
bother to pick up the tip until the end of the session--they know I always
tip consistently. If it is a first encounter
the MPA would ask me what extra I am interested in. A shy one may just
wait until I tell her first I've left a tip for extra. For the 1st time MPA
I usually tip between the top and the middle of the price menu. I would just tell
them whatever service available is fine with me.
And during the session I usually refrain from testing
her limit. Perhaps it is just a matter lof luck.
None of the 1st time MPAs I saw ever tried to talk
me into an upgrade of the service I paid for.

So in my sessions there were no money changing hands face to face,
no bargaining, no preliminary inspection of the MPA's look and body on my part
to decide if they are worth any extra.
The MPAs I see won't even have a chance to ask me
for tips upfront. I can only say that over many yeaers of hobbying
I consistently receive above average services from those who
value a first time client who put them at ease in one of the
most mercenary and deceptive business.
 
I have found my sessions to be better when money is paid at the end.

Even if it is my first time with a particular MPA, I am rarely asked for money upfront. A lot has to do with how the MPA perceives you and in her attitude. I wouldn't mind if the MPA requested the damage upfront, but what can be a turn-off is the way she says it. I would totally be turned off if an MPA just said "Can I have my money now ?". This has happened to me, and once the session began, it became quite evident that the MPA was a cold-fish. On the other hand, if the MPA came out and asked politely, I would be more than willing to pay the money at the beginning.
 
I prefer paying at the end.
But it really depends, At all the major mp's like Allure,Srm,HFh,and IT the normal practice is paying just for the room initially and then pay the mpa after the session ,so there is no issue there.
But at the lower end spa's the girls usually ask for money upfront mayb e becuse they get burnt more often there.
I don't mind paying upfront if the mpa asks but the biggest turn off for me is when they get you in the mood and in the middle of the session they ask you to get up and pay them.(So you get up from the massage table and go through you clothing to find the damn wallet pay her put the wallet back in get back on the massage table and try to get back in the same mood as before).
 
I concur with Red,
VBB and Oil & Gas seem to know exactly how it works,
both from different perspectives.
Unfortunately we live in a imperfect world, and there
are some guys that VBB have mentioned that do engage
in this type of cheap, dishonest behavour, of running out
on the lady without paying. Fortunately most guys are
classy, and it does not happen too frequently, but it
does happen. So the ladies are quite apprehensive of
any new client until they get to know them,
and have a long memory for bad experiences.
So perhaps a little consideration might go a long way.
To me it's sounds that Oil & Gas has got this hobby
down to a true science. I take my hat off to you!
 
Kind of off topic, kinda' on...

I just got back from a place at Kipling and Bloor. I've seen this place many times while driving home and was always curious as to what they had to offer. There was an asian girl who answered the phone, so I thought that maybe it was worth a look-see. Took the BS and was not impressed. Like a lot of EBCers, she looked better with her clothes on. 40/60 in all and she asked for it up front.

I don't know why I do this sometimes. I guess I'm looking for a diamond in the rough when I check out these no-name places. I had an amazing session with Katie a couple of weeks back, and driving away I couldn't help but think to myself, how much more she is worth the 100 clams. For the extra $, I should've driven to Missy Soggy and tried to see Tarah or Brit'ney.

I always say to myself, "no more no-names" but I'm sure that one day when I'm thinking "below the belt"........
 
To be VERY clear, I NEVER repeat with anyone who demands money before I'm DRESSED, let alone done.

I'm probably too much of a pussy to actually walk out if they demand money up front, but I'd sure want to. This has only happened to me once or twice.

I've had one or two demand money before I'm dressed, and I just find it disgusting. Let me wipe the fucking cum off my stomach before I'm fishing around in my wallet.

The fantasy is that it's not about the money, it's about the connection, and oh yeah, here's some cash. It's also decidedly ungentlemanly to handle money upfront - implies no trust in me.

The final point is that I haven't even picked an "option" yet. OK, OK, so I'm always going to take the top option, but don't fucking assume that.
 
Up front is the way to go.

If you're seeing someone you know its mice to just get it out of the way and neither of you have to think about it.

This is also good for someone new since they will no longer have to worry about getting short changed. If they are relaxed and in a good mood hopefully you will too.

We all know how much the appropriate tip is so just pay up. any mpa who's rates fluctuate should be avoided. I like spas that have fixed rates so theirs never any debate.

I think when you tip afterwards YMMV depending on the mindset of the mpa. Besides I think the best service is from an mpa that you've seen before. MPAs are more likely to give you a better session if they know you and are comfortable with you. I've had one mpa confess that when she has a new client she has a set routine because of the uncertainty of someone new. and I can attest that her sessions are really good.
 
I pay first at the fast food joints, the fine dining places offer up the bill after
I have began digesting the meal and have loosened up the belt buckle. That
said, the food at the fast food joints sometimes is much better than at the
fine dining places and alot cheaper....same analogy with the MPAs and only, the mind and the pocket book know the difference, the gonads don't.
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Fun Girl Apple, New Pretty Girl Angela, RMT Grace, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ GRACE AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Nancy, Tina and Kitty will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  36. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Nancy, Tina and Kitty will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  37. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Sunday June 1, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿค—, Christina ๐Ÿ˜, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿคฉ and Lucy ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCandy๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyda,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very beautiful face,open maid,amazing touch,happy the end,give you warm and comfortable time,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Saturday๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Cici, Yoyo, Amber, Juliet, GFE Eva,Echo,๐Ÿ†•Julia, Lucy, Akino & Jennyโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - Your Black Friday Bliss is Here!๐Ÿ™Œ
  42. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl angel very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  43. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  44. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  45. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  46. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NEW ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NEW LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  47. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  48. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] Alice spa has 3 attractive honeys today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (12pm-9pm) is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA (10am-9pm)
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cherry Sara & Tracy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Cherry is slim and very beautiful, can deliver a great service experience. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mix
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
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