money 1st or after session?

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I 've found through out the many, many and costly years that the girls who give the best service are the ones who don't ask for the money up front. What do you guys think?
 
It doesn't really matter.

The reason why I say this is because most times when they will ask is because you are a first time client and they don't know you. Repeat sessions are always better because they know you already so the $$$ factor hardly plays a part, of course that "stiff the bill" factor may still be in her mind.

Some MPAs have gotten stiff before so when you give them the cash it sort of lifts the burden. Some places it doesn't matter if you have repeated they still ask for the $$$ upfront. Blame the stupid fucks that walked out without paying for setting the mood.

I find that when they ask for the $$$ during the session it actually puts a bummer into my session by breaking the mood.

VBB
 
in a way I understand why at times we are asked for money up front...but i have to agree with the fact that almost all good sessions - money is given after....

somehow when the whole issue of paying up front comes out - makes it a lil uncomfortable and makes it feel weird....the girls always try and come up with some sort of excuse for the money up front thing...to me though... what matters is service...whether i pay before or after...as long as the session goes off well....it dosent really matter..
 
a recent thread which sorta addresses the topic here

I tend to think that generally it doesn't matter, but ultimately in my experience those sessions that are taken to that overall higher plane the money was paid after.

Metaphysically speaking ... ow ...huh .. yeah yeah ... seems visiting hours are over.
 
Establishment fee up front ok, other fees nope. If I get that I leave. When I didnt used to leave I really noticed that money after was 9 times out of 10 a better session....you don't get paid at work before you have done any work right?
 
Doesn't really matter to me.

Most of the time i'm happy to give the ladies their dough up front before they even ask. Might as well get it out of the way and just get down to business. You usually settle on something upfront and cash is discussed, so why wait then? If the girl is really pushy or adament about getting her cash right away, then that's a big time turn off.

Keep it real,

NB
 
I usually stick to my regular MPAs and when I am seeking out someone new
it usually takes place in a MP which I am familiar with on its price structure
and the quality of the girls in general.

The first thing I do after I am taken into a room is to leave the tip
at a spot where the girl will notice. Then I proceed to take a shower and
lie down on the table. When my regular comes in they usually don't
bother to pick up the tip until the end of the session--they know I always
tip consistently. If it is a first encounter
the MPA would ask me what extra I am interested in. A shy one may just
wait until I tell her first I've left a tip for extra. For the 1st time MPA
I usually tip between the top and the middle of the price menu. I would just tell
them whatever service available is fine with me.
And during the session I usually refrain from testing
her limit. Perhaps it is just a matter lof luck.
None of the 1st time MPAs I saw ever tried to talk
me into an upgrade of the service I paid for.

So in my sessions there were no money changing hands face to face,
no bargaining, no preliminary inspection of the MPA's look and body on my part
to decide if they are worth any extra.
The MPAs I see won't even have a chance to ask me
for tips upfront. I can only say that over many yeaers of hobbying
I consistently receive above average services from those who
value a first time client who put them at ease in one of the
most mercenary and deceptive business.
 
I have found my sessions to be better when money is paid at the end.

Even if it is my first time with a particular MPA, I am rarely asked for money upfront. A lot has to do with how the MPA perceives you and in her attitude. I wouldn't mind if the MPA requested the damage upfront, but what can be a turn-off is the way she says it. I would totally be turned off if an MPA just said "Can I have my money now ?". This has happened to me, and once the session began, it became quite evident that the MPA was a cold-fish. On the other hand, if the MPA came out and asked politely, I would be more than willing to pay the money at the beginning.
 
I prefer paying at the end.
But it really depends, At all the major mp's like Allure,Srm,HFh,and IT the normal practice is paying just for the room initially and then pay the mpa after the session ,so there is no issue there.
But at the lower end spa's the girls usually ask for money upfront mayb e becuse they get burnt more often there.
I don't mind paying upfront if the mpa asks but the biggest turn off for me is when they get you in the mood and in the middle of the session they ask you to get up and pay them.(So you get up from the massage table and go through you clothing to find the damn wallet pay her put the wallet back in get back on the massage table and try to get back in the same mood as before).
 
I concur with Red,
VBB and Oil & Gas seem to know exactly how it works,
both from different perspectives.
Unfortunately we live in a imperfect world, and there
are some guys that VBB have mentioned that do engage
in this type of cheap, dishonest behavour, of running out
on the lady without paying. Fortunately most guys are
classy, and it does not happen too frequently, but it
does happen. So the ladies are quite apprehensive of
any new client until they get to know them,
and have a long memory for bad experiences.
So perhaps a little consideration might go a long way.
To me it's sounds that Oil & Gas has got this hobby
down to a true science. I take my hat off to you!
 
Kind of off topic, kinda' on...

I just got back from a place at Kipling and Bloor. I've seen this place many times while driving home and was always curious as to what they had to offer. There was an asian girl who answered the phone, so I thought that maybe it was worth a look-see. Took the BS and was not impressed. Like a lot of EBCers, she looked better with her clothes on. 40/60 in all and she asked for it up front.

I don't know why I do this sometimes. I guess I'm looking for a diamond in the rough when I check out these no-name places. I had an amazing session with Katie a couple of weeks back, and driving away I couldn't help but think to myself, how much more she is worth the 100 clams. For the extra $, I should've driven to Missy Soggy and tried to see Tarah or Brit'ney.

I always say to myself, "no more no-names" but I'm sure that one day when I'm thinking "below the belt"........
 
To be VERY clear, I NEVER repeat with anyone who demands money before I'm DRESSED, let alone done.

I'm probably too much of a pussy to actually walk out if they demand money up front, but I'd sure want to. This has only happened to me once or twice.

I've had one or two demand money before I'm dressed, and I just find it disgusting. Let me wipe the fucking cum off my stomach before I'm fishing around in my wallet.

The fantasy is that it's not about the money, it's about the connection, and oh yeah, here's some cash. It's also decidedly ungentlemanly to handle money upfront - implies no trust in me.

The final point is that I haven't even picked an "option" yet. OK, OK, so I'm always going to take the top option, but don't fucking assume that.
 
Up front is the way to go.

If you're seeing someone you know its mice to just get it out of the way and neither of you have to think about it.

This is also good for someone new since they will no longer have to worry about getting short changed. If they are relaxed and in a good mood hopefully you will too.

We all know how much the appropriate tip is so just pay up. any mpa who's rates fluctuate should be avoided. I like spas that have fixed rates so theirs never any debate.

I think when you tip afterwards YMMV depending on the mindset of the mpa. Besides I think the best service is from an mpa that you've seen before. MPAs are more likely to give you a better session if they know you and are comfortable with you. I've had one mpa confess that when she has a new client she has a set routine because of the uncertainty of someone new. and I can attest that her sessions are really good.
 
I pay first at the fast food joints, the fine dining places offer up the bill after
I have began digesting the meal and have loosened up the belt buckle. That
said, the food at the fast food joints sometimes is much better than at the
fine dining places and alot cheaper....same analogy with the MPAs and only, the mind and the pocket book know the difference, the gonads don't.
 
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    Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: ๐Ÿ’–Angela, ๐Ÿ’–Olivia, ๐Ÿ’–Lisa and ๐Ÿ’–Kitty will be on shift. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  36. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Tuesday June 3, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๏ธ, Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  37. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Elsa, Coco, Eva, Cindy, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, Jenny, JPN Yui & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. gold__rose__spa:
    ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿต1536 Warden Avenue Monday,โฃโค Ada,๐Ÿ’‹ a beautiful Korean girl, super fit, slim, but good bust, beautiful, great service+ ๐Ÿต ๐Ÿ’ž ๐Ÿ“ด647 346-8076๐Ÿ“ด
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair mina smile,beautiful strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience amazing body slide โค๏ธnice Vietnamese Amy open mind,everything she can do,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŽˆ๐Ÿ‘
  42. Withme_Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’•โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Monday, ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ Cici, ๐Ÿ’—tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..๐Ÿ’‹โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹โ€ŠEva, ๐Ÿ’–curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica,๐Ÿ’‹ slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  44. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  45. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  46. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  47. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  48. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  50. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
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