HLH observation about renos and girls

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Well, first off I've been watching this place grow and change since the Zona Blue days, both good and bad. I liked the expansion of the bar but didn't like what happened when it expanded, because it moved all the girls to a wall bench and created an us/them mentality in my mind. Guys at the bar, women on the wall, and that wasn't at all what the vibe had been like before. Still, the space was nice.

Fast forward a few years and now they are rebuilding the bar again. Moved the bench out and put in these little tables that come away from the wall. So what happens? The girls mob up on the tables instead of the bench, and now we're watching as the girls sit in that space and eat pasta, which for the life of me I can't figure out why they allow.

I find that a lot of the friendly vibe that used to exist is gone, and if it were my I would say that the girls should be forced to not all sit at those wall tables/benches, or maybe to limit the number in that space at a time and have some at the bar or some such ,and move them around a bit. Make the place a bit more sociable again. I have never, ever, seen such a grim looking bunch of women as i did on my last visit to HLH in November. I was also absolutely prohibit them from eating meals in that area. If they are going to eat then use one of the areas and come back. Who wants to look at scantily clad women stuffing their face with pasta and making a mess of the sitting are? It was a singularly unappealing visual, and we wonder where the panzitas are coming from. lol
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I don't know whether the plan is to put some more tables in there or not, although I could see they were doing stuff in the back, but I think that would also be helpful.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Newfangle9 said:
I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.

Good comments. I don't know if Jeff will get the energy back but I know he is trying. And he is doing it the right way. The times I have been in after Thanksgiving it has been pretty busy.

There was much more going on when The Giant ran the show. Easy to draw a crowd and have a party atmosphere when you are giving out drinks on the house every few minutes. And free sessions. The problem with that is you will eventually go broke.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Seabreeze said:
Newfangle9 said:
I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.

Good comments. I don't know if Jeff will get the energy back but I know he is trying. And he is doing it the right way. The times I have been in after Thanksgiving it has been pretty busy.

There was much more going on when The Giant ran the show. Easy to draw a crowd and have a party atmosphere when you are giving out drinks on the house every few minutes. And free sessions. The problem with that is you will eventually go broke.
I respectfully disagree, Seabreeze. Not to start up the whole Boyd thing again, but the Giant had great promotions and he brought customers in. That is what the restaurant/bar business is all about, volume. Of course you can't bankrupt the place by giving away too many freebies, but if you get more guys in they will spend money and that equals profits.
 
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Still trying to figure out whats a "Reno" :?:
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I hope it's not Janet Reno. :?
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Bet you'd like to Phuck her, huh - I would not do her with Greengos invisible prick

I suspect rennovation is what the Op was getting at, although I've never seen - or heard - it expressed that way
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Scuba1 said:
Bet you'd like to Phuck her, huh - I would not do her with Greengos invisible prick

I suspect rennovation is what the Op was getting at, although I've never seen - or heard - it expressed that way
No, sir, not even I with my beer goggles on would I phuck her. She would need a major RENOVATION.
 
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HLH observation about renos and girls

yes, renos means renovations. sorry. it's so common around it that I took the expression for granted.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I hope Newfangle's right, and that it turns around soon. I'm all for freebies and giveaways, but if the product is good then you don't have to give it away. I would pay for a quality product and a fun experience and I think most of you would agree. It just makes sense. Instead of the girls sitting in bored clusters wondering why no one is buying they could interact with their client and make it happen. Happier, more entertained clients stay longer and session more. Guys are happy, girls are happy. Management gets a cut and is happy too. It's just about creating a culture, and that's business 101, or should be, for those directly involved. The girls don't have the acumen to do it themselves and so the push has to come from management.
 
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  37. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Jenny, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  38. Lulu1980:
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  39. SpringGreen.:
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  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
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  41. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  43. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  44. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Petite Korean๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ทGirl Eva working with Sweet Beautiful Japanese New Cummer to Canada Feifei ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  46. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: SARAH, SUSAN, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl, 5'4" & 116 Lbs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services.
  50. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch line up with superstars like sunny , gabby , elena , kiki , Ella and cindy. At top notch wellness
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