HLH observation about renos and girls

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Well, first off I've been watching this place grow and change since the Zona Blue days, both good and bad. I liked the expansion of the bar but didn't like what happened when it expanded, because it moved all the girls to a wall bench and created an us/them mentality in my mind. Guys at the bar, women on the wall, and that wasn't at all what the vibe had been like before. Still, the space was nice.

Fast forward a few years and now they are rebuilding the bar again. Moved the bench out and put in these little tables that come away from the wall. So what happens? The girls mob up on the tables instead of the bench, and now we're watching as the girls sit in that space and eat pasta, which for the life of me I can't figure out why they allow.

I find that a lot of the friendly vibe that used to exist is gone, and if it were my I would say that the girls should be forced to not all sit at those wall tables/benches, or maybe to limit the number in that space at a time and have some at the bar or some such ,and move them around a bit. Make the place a bit more sociable again. I have never, ever, seen such a grim looking bunch of women as i did on my last visit to HLH in November. I was also absolutely prohibit them from eating meals in that area. If they are going to eat then use one of the areas and come back. Who wants to look at scantily clad women stuffing their face with pasta and making a mess of the sitting are? It was a singularly unappealing visual, and we wonder where the panzitas are coming from. lol
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I don't know whether the plan is to put some more tables in there or not, although I could see they were doing stuff in the back, but I think that would also be helpful.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Newfangle9 said:
I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.

Good comments. I don't know if Jeff will get the energy back but I know he is trying. And he is doing it the right way. The times I have been in after Thanksgiving it has been pretty busy.

There was much more going on when The Giant ran the show. Easy to draw a crowd and have a party atmosphere when you are giving out drinks on the house every few minutes. And free sessions. The problem with that is you will eventually go broke.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Seabreeze said:
Newfangle9 said:
I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.

Good comments. I don't know if Jeff will get the energy back but I know he is trying. And he is doing it the right way. The times I have been in after Thanksgiving it has been pretty busy.

There was much more going on when The Giant ran the show. Easy to draw a crowd and have a party atmosphere when you are giving out drinks on the house every few minutes. And free sessions. The problem with that is you will eventually go broke.
I respectfully disagree, Seabreeze. Not to start up the whole Boyd thing again, but the Giant had great promotions and he brought customers in. That is what the restaurant/bar business is all about, volume. Of course you can't bankrupt the place by giving away too many freebies, but if you get more guys in they will spend money and that equals profits.
 
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Still trying to figure out whats a "Reno" :?:
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I hope it's not Janet Reno. :?
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Bet you'd like to Phuck her, huh - I would not do her with Greengos invisible prick

I suspect rennovation is what the Op was getting at, although I've never seen - or heard - it expressed that way
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Scuba1 said:
Bet you'd like to Phuck her, huh - I would not do her with Greengos invisible prick

I suspect rennovation is what the Op was getting at, although I've never seen - or heard - it expressed that way
No, sir, not even I with my beer goggles on would I phuck her. She would need a major RENOVATION.
 
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HLH observation about renos and girls

yes, renos means renovations. sorry. it's so common around it that I took the expression for granted.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I hope Newfangle's right, and that it turns around soon. I'm all for freebies and giveaways, but if the product is good then you don't have to give it away. I would pay for a quality product and a fun experience and I think most of you would agree. It just makes sense. Instead of the girls sitting in bored clusters wondering why no one is buying they could interact with their client and make it happen. Happier, more entertained clients stay longer and session more. Guys are happy, girls are happy. Management gets a cut and is happy too. It's just about creating a culture, and that's business 101, or should be, for those directly involved. The girls don't have the acumen to do it themselves and so the push has to come from management.
 
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    SUNNY , GABBY , LARISSA , KIKI , MICHELLE AND VANNA AT TOP NOTCH WELLNESS. ALL SUPERSTARS CALL OR TEXT 437-522-9961 TO BOOK
  36. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10(open holiday),Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big big boob,strong massage,amazing endings,bring you comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ‘must try๐ŸŒน
  37. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Friday May 23, 2025, our attendants will be Vicky ๐Ÿค—, Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Carla ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici ๐Ÿค— and Opal ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  38. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: ๐ŸญJennifer, ๐ŸญCoco and ๐ŸญEmily will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Cici, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Julia & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits
  41. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Superstar Lucy, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌLUCY AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  42. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Superstar Bobo, Jap/Chin Akino, Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน
  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  44. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (12:30pm-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY; EVENING SASHA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs
  48. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  49. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  50. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ANNA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
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