Question When Things Return

[OppaiLover]

Just because you (not you) don't agree with what they're protesting or don't like the optics (carrying firearms), it doesn't change the fact that what they're doing in that picture is well within their constitutional rights. That's the first and second amendment in full display and theres nothing their corrupt government officials can do about it.

If clueless and inept Governors like Whitmer (Michigan), Newsom (California) and Murphy (New Jersey) continue to act like pseudo dictators with their very draconian social distancing measures (some even clearly violating the bill of rights) while presenting no prospective date to reopen the economy, they can expect a pseudo revolution from angry citizens with small businesses to run and bills to pay but no paychecks to show for it. I am so sick and tired of elitist assholes who have jobs in this climate looking down on unemployed working class people or business owners who want to make a living again. Why do these spoiled brats constantly thumb their nose at people who have been affected financially by the shutdown yet they never lambast these irresponsible leaders from certain states who act with no sense of urgency in trying to reopen the economy?

It's okay for these hicks to protest the same way it's okay for hood rats from Black Lives Matter to protest. Only an idiot cannot tell the difference between an activist/protester and a terrorist. A terrorist is someone who would use violence to advance his/her political agenda. These hicks haven't used violence at all yet they're demonized in the media. A group like Antifa attacks people with bike locks and sets fires in the streets but they're glorified by the media just because of their liberal values that coincides with theirs.

First paragraph: that's exactly his point. If a group of black or brown people were to protest in the same manner holding rifles, they would be arrested on the spot or worse. Wouldn't they just be displaying their constitution rights? There is a clear double standard here which you clearly glossed over to try and make your point.

Second paragraph: sure, the measures are draconian but, there are many other counties in the world enforcing emergency stay at home orders. It's not like this something these states are doing on their own. The whole purpose is to flatten the curve and the states you mentioned are some of the most populated and thus, hardest hit. You also fail to mention any of the Republican Governors that extended stay at home orders so your bias is extremely blatant. Do you not not think the hundreds of thousands of other people staying home don't have small businesses to run or need paycheques to feed their families? Of course they do! Except they're not being assembled by far right groups to politicize the pandemic. Look at most of the signs they're holding. It's obvious that most of these people are far right Reupublican supporters. Also, if the Federal government was quick to realize the severity of COVID19, the states wouldn't be in the situation they are in now. It's hypocritical to ask for urgency now when there was none to begin with when this whole ordeal started.

Third paragraph: Some Antifa protests do get out of hand but mainly when they encounter far right groups like the Proud Boys. Having said that, I have problem with labelling Antifa a domestic terrorist group however, you'd have to do the same with the far right groups as well. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[hapending]

It's coming but .......

Government of Ontario:

Government's roadmap to ease Covid-19 restrictions will be set out in 5 phases. These phases will be on 3 week review process, the current phases would commence on the following dates:

Phase 1 - 18th May
Phase 2 - 8th June
Phase 3 - 29th June
Phase 4 - 20th July
Phase 5 - 10th August

If coronavirus cases begin to increase, we will revert to the restrictions set out in the previous stage.

PHASE 1

Phase 1 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Construction workers, landscape gardeners and other outdoor workers may return to work

Garden centres, repair shops and hardware stores may reopen

Fitness & sport activities (non-contact) in small groups (max of 4 people) may resume (golf included)

People may meet up with friends and family in small groups outdoors (size of a "small group" is defined as up to 4 people)

The majority of regular health services will resume

Outdoor public amenities and tourism sites may reopen (beaches & mountain walks)

*NOTE - social distancing guidelines will remain in operation for all

PHASE 2

Phase 2 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Restriction will be extended from 5km to 20km

Specific retail hours will be allocated for those currently cocooning

Home visits will be allowed to those cocooning, by a small number of persons for a short period of time

Up to 4 people may visit another household for a short period of time

Slightly larger family gatherings at funerals will be permitted (limited to maximum safe social distancing can still be applied)

Solitary workers and workers that can maintain social distancing can return to work

Small retail outlets that can control staff and customer numbers and maintain social distancing may reopen

Public libraries will reopen

Outdoor sporting activities, involving small group training (no matches) can recommenced (no contact still allowed)

PHASE 3

Phase 3 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Commence opening of creches and pre-schools for children of essential workers

Commence a phased approach to visiting at hospitals and other healthcare settings

Businesses where employees have low levels of daily interaction may reopen

Phase in the opening of all other non-essential retail outlets, restricting customer numbers and applying social distancing (limited to retail outlets with street level entrance and exit, i.e. not in shopping centres)

Playgrounds will be reopened

'Behind closed doors' sporting events may recommence

Cafes and restaurants may reopen as long as social distancing is maintained

PHASE 4

Phase 4 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Travel will be extended to outside of your region

Larger household visits will be permitted

Small social gatherings will be permitted (baptisms, small weddings etc.)

Creches and pre-schools will reopen for all other children

Other employees return to work - beginning with those who cannot work remotely and then staggering the working times to ensure social distancing

Barbers and hairdressers may reopen

Museums and other cultural outlets may reopen

Sports teams (GAA & soccer) may recommence and public swimming pools may reopen

Hotels and other hospitality units may reopen based on limited occupancy. Hotel bars are to remain closed.

PHASE 5

Phase 5 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Social gatherings will be permitted except for large gathering and gatherings in households of suspect cases

Schools and colleges will reopen on a phased basis and will recommence in the new academic year

Normal hospital and other residential setting visits will be allowed

All employees may return to work on normal onsite arrangements, except organisations that cannot maintain social distancing plans

Enclosed shopping centres may reopen

Tattoo and piercing parlors may reopen

Cinemas may reopen

Close contact physical sports may recommence (rugby, boxing etc.)

Gyms and dance studios may reopen

Mass sporting events may recommence where social distancing can be maintained

Indoor recreational venues may reopen (bowling, bingo etc.)

Small festivals and other outdoor cultural events may resume

Tourist travel to offshore islands may resume

This is not for Ontario. Fake news.

 

[Ursus]

This shutdown has proven beyond any doubt, that most Canadian citizens are Communists at heart.

They love control. They love to be ruled by centralized planners. They love to be told when they can go out, who they can associate with, where they can shop and how much they are allowed to earn.

People are willing to let their family members die as long as it means they can follow the orders of their govt overlords.

That's why I hate most people - they are absolute zombies. This shutdown has reinforced my hatred for those zombies. Proved I was right all along.

 

[snoopdoggie]

It's coming but .......

Government of Ontario:

Government's roadmap to ease Covid-19 restrictions will be set out in 5 phases. These phases will be on 3 week review process, the current phases would commence on the following dates:

Phase 1 - 18th May
Phase 2 - 8th June
Phase 3 - 29th June
Phase 4 - 20th July
Phase 5 - 10th August

If coronavirus cases begin to increase, we will revert to the restrictions set out in the previous stage.

PHASE 1

Phase 1 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Construction workers, landscape gardeners and other outdoor workers may return to work

Garden centres, repair shops and hardware stores may reopen

Fitness & sport activities (non-contact) in small groups (max of 4 people) may resume (golf included)

People may meet up with friends and family in small groups outdoors (size of a "small group" is defined as up to 4 people)

The majority of regular health services will resume

Outdoor public amenities and tourism sites may reopen (beaches & mountain walks)

*NOTE - social distancing guidelines will remain in operation for all

PHASE 2

Phase 2 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Restriction will be extended from 5km to 20km

Specific retail hours will be allocated for those currently cocooning

Home visits will be allowed to those cocooning, by a small number of persons for a short period of time

Up to 4 people may visit another household for a short period of time

Slightly larger family gatherings at funerals will be permitted (limited to maximum safe social distancing can still be applied)

Solitary workers and workers that can maintain social distancing can return to work

Small retail outlets that can control staff and customer numbers and maintain social distancing may reopen

Public libraries will reopen

Outdoor sporting activities, involving small group training (no matches) can recommenced (no contact still allowed)

PHASE 3

Phase 3 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Commence opening of creches and pre-schools for children of essential workers

Commence a phased approach to visiting at hospitals and other healthcare settings

Businesses where employees have low levels of daily interaction may reopen

Phase in the opening of all other non-essential retail outlets, restricting customer numbers and applying social distancing (limited to retail outlets with street level entrance and exit, i.e. not in shopping centres)

Playgrounds will be reopened

'Behind closed doors' sporting events may recommence

Cafes and restaurants may reopen as long as social distancing is maintained

PHASE 4

Phase 4 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Travel will be extended to outside of your region

Larger household visits will be permitted

Small social gatherings will be permitted (baptisms, small weddings etc.)

Creches and pre-schools will reopen for all other children

Other employees return to work - beginning with those who cannot work remotely and then staggering the working times to ensure social distancing

Barbers and hairdressers may reopen

Museums and other cultural outlets may reopen

Sports teams (GAA & soccer) may recommence and public swimming pools may reopen

Hotels and other hospitality units may reopen based on limited occupancy. Hotel bars are to remain closed.

PHASE 5

Phase 5 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Social gatherings will be permitted except for large gathering and gatherings in households of suspect cases

Schools and colleges will reopen on a phased basis and will recommence in the new academic year

Normal hospital and other residential setting visits will be allowed

All employees may return to work on normal onsite arrangements, except organisations that cannot maintain social distancing plans

Enclosed shopping centres may reopen

Tattoo and piercing parlors may reopen

Cinemas may reopen

Close contact physical sports may recommence (rugby, boxing etc.)

Gyms and dance studios may reopen

Mass sporting events may recommence where social distancing can be maintained

Indoor recreational venues may reopen (bowling, bingo etc.)

Small festivals and other outdoor cultural events may resume

Tourist travel to offshore islands may resume

So, I need to wait another 10 weeks for a haircut?

 

[snoopdoggie]

This shutdown has proven beyond any doubt, that most Canadian citizens are Communists at heart.

They love control. They love to be ruled by centralized planners. They love to be told when they can go out, who they can associate with, where they can shop and how much they are allowed to earn.

People are willing to let their family members die as long as it means they can follow the orders of their govt overlords.

That's why I hate most people - they are absolute zombies. This shutdown has reinforced my hatred for those zombies. Proved I was right all along.

You haven't proved anything.

 

[cupcrazy]

It's coming but .......

Government of Ontario:

Government's roadmap to ease Covid-19 restrictions will be set out in 5 phases. These phases will be on 3 week review process, the current phases would commence on the following dates:

Phase 1 - 18th May
Phase 2 - 8th June
Phase 3 - 29th June
Phase 4 - 20th July
Phase 5 - 10th August

If coronavirus cases begin to increase, we will revert to the restrictions set out in the previous stage.

PHASE 1

Phase 1 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Construction workers, landscape gardeners and other outdoor workers may return to work

Garden centres, repair shops and hardware stores may reopen

Fitness & sport activities (non-contact) in small groups (max of 4 people) may resume (golf included)

People may meet up with friends and family in small groups outdoors (size of a "small group" is defined as up to 4 people)

The majority of regular health services will resume

Outdoor public amenities and tourism sites may reopen (beaches & mountain walks)

*NOTE - social distancing guidelines will remain in operation for all

PHASE 2

Phase 2 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Restriction will be extended from 5km to 20km

Specific retail hours will be allocated for those currently cocooning

Home visits will be allowed to those cocooning, by a small number of persons for a short period of time

Up to 4 people may visit another household for a short period of time

Slightly larger family gatherings at funerals will be permitted (limited to maximum safe social distancing can still be applied)

Solitary workers and workers that can maintain social distancing can return to work

Small retail outlets that can control staff and customer numbers and maintain social distancing may reopen

Public libraries will reopen

Outdoor sporting activities, involving small group training (no matches) can recommenced (no contact still allowed)

PHASE 3

Phase 3 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Commence opening of creches and pre-schools for children of essential workers

Commence a phased approach to visiting at hospitals and other healthcare settings

Businesses where employees have low levels of daily interaction may reopen

Phase in the opening of all other non-essential retail outlets, restricting customer numbers and applying social distancing (limited to retail outlets with street level entrance and exit, i.e. not in shopping centres)

Playgrounds will be reopened

'Behind closed doors' sporting events may recommence

Cafes and restaurants may reopen as long as social distancing is maintained

PHASE 4

Phase 4 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Travel will be extended to outside of your region

Larger household visits will be permitted

Small social gatherings will be permitted (baptisms, small weddings etc.)

Creches and pre-schools will reopen for all other children

Other employees return to work - beginning with those who cannot work remotely and then staggering the working times to ensure social distancing

Barbers and hairdressers may reopen

Museums and other cultural outlets may reopen

Sports teams (GAA & soccer) may recommence and public swimming pools may reopen

Hotels and other hospitality units may reopen based on limited occupancy. Hotel bars are to remain closed.

PHASE 5

Phase 5 of the roadmap will lift the following restrictions:

Social gatherings will be permitted except for large gathering and gatherings in households of suspect cases

Schools and colleges will reopen on a phased basis and will recommence in the new academic year

Normal hospital and other residential setting visits will be allowed

All employees may return to work on normal onsite arrangements, except organisations that cannot maintain social distancing plans

Enclosed shopping centres may reopen

Tattoo and piercing parlors may reopen

Cinemas may reopen

Close contact physical sports may recommence (rugby, boxing etc.)

Gyms and dance studios may reopen

Mass sporting events may recommence where social distancing can be maintained

Indoor recreational venues may reopen (bowling, bingo etc.)

Small festivals and other outdoor cultural events may resume

Tourist travel to offshore islands may resume

fake news,. If you google the abbreviation, GAA found in phase 4, it is a sport league in Ireland.

 

[snoopdoggie]

fake news,. If you google the abbreviation, GAA found in phase 4, it is a sport league in Ireland.

No wonder I was reading this post with a funny Irish accent. Lol.

All kidding aside.

I thought something wasn't right when it mentions Rugby, and not baseball or hockey.

 

[cupcrazy]

No wonder I was reading this post with a funny Irish accent. Lol.

All kidding aside.

I thought something wasn't right when it mentions Rugby, and not baseball or hockey.

I wouldn't be surprise if Ontario has to go through the same time line. If spa has to be closed till Ocotober, a lot of them will go out of businesses since a lot of landlords are dicks.

 

[snoopdoggie]

I wouldn't be surprise if Ontario has to go through the same time line. If spa has to be closed till Ocotober, a lot of them will go out of businesses since a lot of landlords are dicks.

I can see that definitely. A lot of the tier2 spas will be gone for sure. How will they pay the rent?

 

[cupcrazy]

I can see that definitely. A lot of the tier2 spas will be gone for sure. How will they pay the rent?

to a certain degree it is good. It get rids of the garbage.

 

[Ursus]

The British Medical Advisor who started the world wide shutdown has resigned from his post for not following shutdown restrictions.

He was leaving his home to fuck a married woman who has her own family - husband and kids - at home. So, he was doing the worst of the worst in terms of not social distancing himself from others, as he told the British govt that such measures needed to be done to save lives. He knew he was lying and there was no real danger.

If you arent a senior, you have a better chance of dying in a car accident than from Covid19. That's a fact.

Proves once again that this shutdown hysteria is a scam.

 

[Craig_45671234523__]

I think when spas open up again they should have temperature checks on each MPA and customers done to ensure no one has a fever and they also need to have UV lights in all the rooms to catch COVID-19 before it is too late. This is the only right way spas can open not people wearing masks and gloves as it will make the experience really uncomfortable and uneasy for everyone.

 

[snoopdoggie]

The British Medical Advisor who started the world wide shutdown has resigned from his post for not following shutdown restrictions.

He was leaving his home to fuck a married woman who has her own family - husband and kids - at home. So, he was doing the worst of the worst in terms of not social distancing himself from others, as he told the British govt that such measures needed to be done to save lives. He knew he was lying and there was no real danger.

If you arent a senior, you have a better chance of dying in a car accident than from Covid19. That's a fact.

Proves once again that this shutdown hysteria is a scam.

It doesn't prove that it was a scam. It just proves he's an idiot.

Do you think Boris Johnson was pretending to have Covid19?

Who's paying for the health care system in Canada? You, me, and all the Canadian taxpayers. Don't you think it's wise to keep people out of the hospital so we don't have to pay even more than what we're already paying? I would think that you'd be pleased if people would take the proper precautions, so as to stay healthy, and not go to the hospital unnecessarily.

So if someday, when and if you need to go to the hospital, maybe they'll be a doctor available to save your life.

 

[Sybarite]

I think when spas open up again they should have temperature checks on each MPA and customers done to ensure no one has a fever and they also need to have UV lights in all the rooms to catch COVID-19 before it is too late. This is the only right way spas can open not people wearing masks and gloves as it will make the experience really uncomfortable and uneasy for everyone.

They are beginning to discover temperature checks won't protect you from the disease because more than half the infected don't have fevers and a quarter have no symptoms whatsoever...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/05/11/thermal-scanners-are-latest-technology-being-deployed-detect-coronavirus-they-dont-really-work/

Many people with covid-19 infections haven’t actually had fevers: The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said last month that as many as 25 percent of infected people don’t show any symptoms at all. The virus’ stealthy ability to not give itself away while it spreads led university researchers in February to estimate that fever scans and similar screening techniques would overlook more than half of the infected.

 

[Craig_45671234523__]

They are beginning to discover temperature checks won't protect you from the disease because more than half the infected don't have fevers and a quarter have no symptoms whatsoever...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/05/11/thermal-scanners-are-latest-technology-being-deployed-detect-coronavirus-they-dont-really-work/

Many people with covid-19 infections haven’t actually had fevers: The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said last month that as many as 25 percent of infected people don’t show any symptoms at all. The virus’ stealthy ability to not give itself away while it spreads led university researchers in February to estimate that fever scans and similar screening techniques would overlook more than half of the infected.

I know there are a lot of asymptomatic cases, but it is better than nothing..

 

[Craig_45671234523__]

I think we will all come to the same conclusion that a herd immunity is the only we are going to solve this problem. Just like what Sweden has done. This novel Coronavirus has and will have very damaging effects on people's mental health, driving many people crazy. It is better they reopen the economy than let people go bankrupt and crazy even if many people die... Or I mean at very least looser restrictions by a lot right now it is very strict. Right now everyone is a prisoner in their own homes..

 

[Craig_45671234523__]

Look at it this way the damages from people staying home much longer then they need to will cause the suicide rate to go up higher. Then there will be more deaths from suicide then COVID-19. I know it is my selfishness talking, but I think it is the right thing to do having a few people die from COVID-19 then keeping everyone locked up like a prisoner at their homes.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Look at it this way the damages from people staying home much longer then they need to will cause the suicide rate to go up higher. Then there will be more deaths from suicide then COVID-19. I know it is my selfishness talking, but I think it is the right thing to do having a few people die from COVID-19 then keeping everyone locked up like a prisoner at their homes.

I think it's imperative to find a perfect balance.

Don't let idiots like Ursus persuade us to open everything up as they were a few months ago. Then all hell will break loose, and things will get worse than they are now.

 

[Sybarite]

I know there are a lot of asymptomatic cases, but it is better than nothing..

Agreed definitely better than nothing, so long as it doesn't give anyone a false sense of security given that over half the people who are infected will still pass the temperature test.