Sports massage training - advice please!

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Hi i wonder if anyone can advise me on the best sports massage course to do. I have looked at NLSSM and Active Health group. Active Health group is miles more value for money and does an intensive course which would be great. Howver, NLSSM/LSSM advise that the longer courses are better as you have a chance to practice techniques etc. Both seem to cover alot - I want to be able to work without supervison and the 2 different schools are affiliated to different associations. Which is the best one to be part of so i could work independently and gain the most recognised qualification Hope you can help! [sm=1syellow1.gif]
 
Hi Nics,
im going to be biased because I did the Active Health course, and i did the intensive format. I have to say that I did an ITEC sports massage, which was useless and that was done over a few months, but it was useless. On the Active course in the first week I got the chance to practice on genuine clients which they provided from their own clinics. The way i did it meant that I was could practice, practice, practice, which we students used to do every single night of the week.

I have seen that LSSM dont advise intensive courses, but thats because they dont run them. Active run 3 formats, an intensive, an 10 weekend, and a 10 month, and I have met graduates from all formats, on CPD workshops, and everyone was equally as capable. At the end of the day you can practice for a year when you are training, but if you dont have supervised practice, then you dont know if you are going wrong! At Active, the trainers would stay behind untilthe last student left, sometimes aslate as 9pm, so that they could provide supervision.

NLSSM is part of SMA, but I received information that Active are also working with SMA, now that SMA have sorted out their own internal issues. LSSM is no longer part of SMA.

On a seperate piece of advice, the sports therapy industry is going through state registration, which means that once its through, a sports therapist will have a protected title, and will be classed as an 'allied medical professional' on the same level asa physiotherapist or other HPC registered profession. Sports Massage is not going through this process, so it will probably always be banded along with every other complementary therapy. In my opinion, if you were to do a course you should do Active's level 5 sports therapy course, which is 5 days longer than their sports & remedial massage course.

Good luck which every route you take!
 
hI,
FROM ABOVE POST, THE ADVANCED SPORTS THERAPY COURSE IS NOT JUST 5 DAYS LONGER, YOU ALSO HAVE TO DO MORE CASE STUDIES AND DOCUMENTED HOME STUDY NOW THAT THE LEVEL 5 QUALIFICATION HAS BEEN RECOGNISED BY ASET
 
HI thanks for both your help its helped me come to a decision. I did look at the advancedsports therapy course which looks great and the tutors all seem really helpful - canyou join the society of sports therapists after doing this?

cheers
 
you can join society after doing the active course, but you cant if you do the NLSSM or LSSM
 
Personally (at the risk of upsetting the 'Active Health Group' lobby) I would have thought that the answer to nics' question about which is the more recognised association depends on whether you want to be a 'sports therapist' (in which case I would agree that STO is the better bet), a 'sports massage practitioner' (there has been a lot of previous discussion on this forum, but I still think that the SMA provides the best job opportunities, although its affiliated schools don't seem to offer the best training) or a 'remedial massage therapist' (in which case I would be inclined to recommend ISRM).

There is probably scope for a separate thread to explain the differences between a 'sports therapist' and a 'remedial massage therapist'!!

Regards

Alan
 
Hi Alan,
I agree with the STO/SMA link there, I enquired as to whether Active Health Group are going to become affiliated to SMA, and the answer is what I said above, yes. Still in my opinion, now that SMA allow all levels to join, i.e '2 dayers' at level 3, I think it sort of weakens the structure a little.That being said, I am a member of STO, as I get lots of opportunities through them, and I am going to join the SMA.

Re ISRM, this has quite blatantly been set up because of the LSSM not being part of SMA anymore.They need an organisation to validate them, so they settheir own up. Not a totally bad thing, butI also think that the way sports therapy and sports massage is being marketed and promoted, the ISRM will be shut out of a lot of things that are happening, which will probably effect its members.

One thingI would add is that I researched into the industry long and hard before I trained, and found that the majority of the opportunities exist for sports therapists, as opposed to sports massage or remedial massage. These opportunitiescan only grow once the industry becomes part of the HPC registered professions.
 
Hi all,
without sitting on the fence here, I tend to agree with both AlanD and Myoman on the points they raise, However the issue of regulation is going to reqiure all these validating bodies to work a lot closer together than has been the norm.
I think the courses that are internally validated will be forced to move towards external validation sooner rather than later, especially now ACTUAL level 4 and 5 qualifications exist. The previous sports therapy/massage threads have ran their course and makes interesting reading. As an STO member I have been pleased with the back up and support I receive and with the continuing updating of information regarding HPC regulation but cannot comment about SMA other than I did not receive answers to specific questions i raised by both email and snail mail.
Best of luck whichever direction you choose to take.

PS I actually think that state regulation will not get through with its present application.
 
Hopefully I can offer greater insight into why the ISRM was formed. It's main objective is to develop sport and remedial massage training within the uk, by working with smaller schools who offer training at a level 4 (ISRM does not accept anything less than level 4). Under normal circumstances, smaller schools cannot receive external validation, as they do not produce the numbers, hence, by being under an umbrella group they can grow and be recognized while maintaining a high standard of training. As for why the LSSM left the SMA, I believe they felt the ISRM better represented their needs. As for training and being able to get jobs, actually the doors are very much open with sport and remedial training, practitioners are highly respected by the appropriate organizations as they have an excellent reputation for quality. As well graduates can work independently, open their own clinics, but most importantly meet the needs of the clients. I must admit, I too am slightly biased...
 
Hi its good to hear from you about the setting up of ISRM, however when you say about level 4 training offered by smaller schools, which schools are these and could you give me details of who validates their level 4 courses, this topic has again been discussed at length, but IMO courses that are "aligned or mapped to" level 4 are still level 3 unless external validation is taking place.
there is no limit on school size that restricts external validation, I suspect that the cost implications are the root cause, unless a school is training students week in and week out, there is no way that they will be able to bear the costs assosiated with the setting up of this level of course, the paper chase that is involved with maintaining documentation for validation and the actual cost of assessment of students.
i feel that I may be starting to re cover old ground here, lets hope that as I have previously stated , ALL validating bodies start to work together rather than pulling in different directions for what I think is personal reasons by some chairmen/women and board members. To take this industry forward is something to which we should all be aspiring irrespective of our allegance to STO/ISRM/ SST etc etc etc
Gaz
 
From there wibsite

External validation
The Institute is externally validated by Edexel/BTEC which is a national awarding body for vocational education and training. They have evaluated the ISRM qualification and graded it at a level 4 (NVQ equivalent) and oversee the Instituteโ€™s internal assessment procedures to ensure that high standards are consistently achieved.

The Schools

[link=http://www.theisrm.com/schools.php]http://www.theisrm.com/schools.php[/link]

HTH
 
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    366 ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New young RMT student Helen, Fun girl Apple, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ APPLE AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
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  41. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (8PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JESSIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  42. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NANCY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. SpringGreen.:
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  45. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  46. AliceSpa:
    3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA (12pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. SKY (10:30am-9pm): is Part time girl from Indonesia, petite 5'2", B Cup, 100 Lbs, long black hair, new to the biz.Young, fresh/cute, pretty, submissive, slim tiny waist, fair skin. bbbj
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services...
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. CINDY is slim
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA, MIA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open mind
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and flirty Ivy 36DD with curly body 30โ€™s open mind, young sweet popular Michelle 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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