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Hi all

why is everyone on here knocking sports massage therapists.

we provide a valuable service to our clients, we provide a service that other therapist dont bother with cant be bothered with or are not as skilled at.

im currently having treatment from a physio due to a leg operation, she admits that my profession is better at dealing with muscles than there's, she says they will almost never perform massage on a client and if they do it may only be friction techniques, they just dont cover it much in their degree.

we (sports massage therapists) are a profession in our own right, we do our course take our exams and receive our diplomas, hopefully

i think the reason so many sports massage therapist tag themselves as sports therapist is we get labelled as just massage therapist, which we are defo not, we are classed as the same as a someone who works in a spa or beauty salon doing therapeutic massage, we provide much more than that, we drop the massage tag to give our profession a more professional title, and to move away from the masseur image. Although i do find that dropping the sports tag gets me more clients as i treat a lot of non-sports people.

There is alot of talk about changing our name to reflect our trade, maybe we cant see the woods for the trees, what i mean is we need to look at it differently and from an other angle. Instead of changing the name, lets promote the work we do, people need to know what we do who we can treat and what we can treat, maybe its as simple as that.

people go to physio's if they have an injury they never think to try anything else because its all they know. If their back it out they go to a chriopractor. If people knew more about sports massage they may never get injured or pull their backs. Having regular massage will help good muscle condition.

lets promote the good work that sports massage therapist do and provide, and stop knocking our profession, ok we are not a physio or sports therapist we are a sports massage therapist and proud of it.

regarding getting recognised by the governing bodies out there, we just need to promote what we go and not compare with other therapies. you dont compare a plumber with an electrician or a bricklayer but you need them all to build a house. We all have our different fields and should be promoted as such.

Stopping knocking sports massage therapist and help promote instead, fighting between us will do our industry no good in the long run. The goverment, NHS, and health services, like Bupa etc etc need to recognize us all. We just need to convince them that we help the public back to fitness and thats what is important at the end of the day. My clients wouldnt be without my services now and respect what i do for them.

We are all different so stop comparing and embrace the industry and work together to promote sports therapist, sports massage therapist.
 
from my point of view, it is when SMP begin to take on cases they should really refer onto a more trained person.

You can't compare several workshops-which some SMP do-to high quality training.

And is there standardisation of sports massage? Not really, I could set up a school and produce therapists, they wouldnt be very good as I have no formal training in teaching or delivering, but they could still be called sports massage therapists.

I agree you do a sterling job, but for the one good SMP you find, there are 4 others who are terrible and tar the name with their ugly brush
 
for those SMP who are not trained well enough or who do take on cases that they should refer, and if they dont provide the clients with a quality service, well...the clients will not come back get a bad name for themselves and be out of work. we dont need to fear the poorly trained and just focus on ourselves.

plus i have dealing (as a client) with many physio's NHS & private and to be honest the service i got from them was useless and no worth the ยฃ40 for 30 minutes which i paid for. Even a top physio in Coventry who teach's students to become physio's miss-diagnosised me, i had a torn ACL and she never spotted it even after 3 treatments, my surgeon spent 2 minutes with me a told me what i had done.

so someone who had degree's from Uni been working in the industry for years and is also a lectureer for other physio's didnt do a good job for me.

its about the person, if they work hard within their profession and are passionate they will provide a good service. if they clients are happy thats what is important.

i for one have lost faith with physio's, and many of my clients are not happy with the service they get, they much prefer a hands on approach which is what they get with a sports massage therapist.

We all have our place in the industry, we should work together to improve the awearness of the benefits of SM & ST

I took a sports massage diploma and so im titled as a sports massage therapist and thats that. if you done a sports therapy course then you're a sports therapist, they is no problem.

i advertise my self as a Sports Massage Therapist with speciality in;ultrasoundtaping & strappingpersonal trainingnutritional advicesports coachingplus a few other subjects which i have qualified in.

people just need to be made awear of what we do. the weak will fall away and those that have good enough skill will stay. lets stop fighting between each other and promote promote promote whats good about SM & ST

there will always be good & bad therapist regardless of their training
 
thanks for the enlightning post.

Just to mention-there will be standardisation of sport therapy-hence the HPC regs-refer to every post regarding it.

lets put it a simpler way. Would I refer any of my family to a diploma qualified therapist after the shambles I have seen produced? NO

Would I send them to a degree therapist, yes.

My personal opinion from personal and professional experience. Its a like it or lump it post.
 
@ total therapy

i have used many degree qualified therapist from sports therapy to physio's and some of them are not worth the paper their so called degree certificate is printed on.

there will always be good and bad therapists regardless of the training. perhaps you should take your issues about sports massage with the training providers, and not the therapist themselves. I agree with you that the industry perhaps does need better standards, and that a diploma in sports massage should contain the following..... so all course providers meet this standard of training. Yes a weekend course or a couple of work-shops arenot the way to give out diplomas.

but like i said earlier, spending 3 years at uni gaining a degree doesnt mean your a star therapist.

i know a top physio in my city who mis-diagnosised me, after 3 treatments she still didnt find that i had torn my ACL a waste of a ยฃ100 on my part.

we are a seperate profession (sports massage) from sports therapists, but we should still promote and work together
 
My personal opinion from personal and professional experience. Its a like it or lump it post.[/quote]

just picking up on an earlier post, my NHS trust employ STs and have done for over a year, not a pilot scheme.


I am just so pleased the industry is pulling together as demonstrated on these fora
 
I'm glad it is enlightening

A lot of 'sports therapists' do seem to have a rather uninformed misdirected, elitist 'holier than tho' attitude (not really suprising with the b*ll they are consistantly fed with from their PA the self appointed lead body for sports therapy in the UK (sic)

I'm glad you are not one of them


Other than the PS 'mantra' on what basis is this obsession for a 'Degree'?

I have mapped the SST Standards of Proficiency to existing QCF Level 4 Sports Massage courses and other than nutrition there is not much difference (other than some gratuitously embelished terminology)

Just because if it takes longer to complete, does it make it better?

So if the content is the same what is the difference bewteen an SST 'Degree' and a QCF Certificate (it doesn't even need to be a Diploma to match it)?
 
just picking up on an earlier post, my NHS trust employ STs and have done for over a year, not a pilot scheme.




Gary, out of interest what are they doing exactly for the NHS, what level of training do they have and which trust is it?

Dan
 
I'm glad it is enlightening

from their PA the self appointed lead body for sports therapy in the UK (sic) Aren't they all self appointed

I'm glad you are not one of them


Other than the PS 'mantra' on what basis is this obsession for a 'Degree'?

I have mapped the SST Standards of Proficiency to existing QCF Level 4 Sports Massage courses ) Not another one

Just because if it takes longer to complete, does it make it better?

So if the content is the same what is the difference bewteen an SST 'Degree' and a QCF Certificate (it doesn't even need to be a Diploma to match it)?
 
(other than some gratuitously embelished terminology)


Hi DFNU,

pot kettle black

Bullsh17 would have sufficed

BGFL
 
@ DNFU here here

ive not found much difference either. i learnt about nutrition on my sports massage course, ive also gained several advanced exercise qualifications. & im nearing the end of a sports psychology course at Warwick Uni.

but all these diplomas, certificates, qualification still only tag me as a sports massage therapist. if SM is always put down as sub-standard treatments we will never get work from NHS or health care providers like bupa.

i do a hard days work providing an excellent service to my clients, and for these ST to keep put my profession down they are putting me down also.

SMP sould be used by the NHS, after an op on my leg i could of really done with a SM to help with my muscle development.

to be honest a degree, diploma, certificate or a pretty badge on your chest dont mean a thing, if your good at your job thats all that matters. what are the ST so scared of.

I know poeple who have a sports science degree, been to uni for years, and are no way near as good as me at what i do.
 
Gary, out of interest what are they doing exactly for the NHS, what level of training do they have and which trust is it?

Dan[/quote]



Errrrrr Dan ? Sports therapy

East midlands
 
Errrrrr Dan ? Sports therapy

East midlands[/quote]

Yeah more specific on the trust. Details...details!

They have been employed as Physio assistants then?
 
Though not all proclaim themselves as the 'lead body' (judge, jury and executioner?) nor have the gaul to make this statement to a goverment representative with no evidence to support it

Other than to massage () the ego no answer as to why a 'degree' is better then?
 
I suppose it all depends on what you want to achieve personally. I want to do a degree and hope to start one this year. Maybe you should ask the major sporting organisations in this country who employ graduates. Not sure how many employ diplomates at the top end of sport. Do you have a degree?
 
well its good to see we have stayed on track from the original post

here to promote the good work us sports massage therapist do, that we should encourage the awearness of our profession, to be integrated with health care provider private and NHS

we do a valuable service that is needed out there.
 
how do you explain course providers that produce course on sports therapy levels 4 & 5 which are only a month or so long or bridging courses that are just a few weeks long, you are able to call yourselve a sports therapist after these courses and they are recognised within the industry
 
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    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ190 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Fun Girl Angela, New Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  32. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Mia new Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Tiffany She is new as MPA From Philippines Slim Body Great Massage Fun personality Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed
  33. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Tiffany, Vivian and Kitty will be on shift. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  34. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday May 28, 2025, our attendants will be Carla ๐Ÿ’‹, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿ˜ and Yoyo ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  35. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  36. Lulu1980:
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  37. Sabrina Fox:
    I'M HOT BUSTY AFRICAN GIRL AVAILABLE AT WESTON & ST. CLAIR. LETS HOOK UP! ๐Ÿ“ž 647-271-9648
  38. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
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  39. Nu spring spa888:
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  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  41. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Lucy, Cindy, Yui, new Jojo, Coco, Cici, busty Amber, Kelly & Jasmine โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awai
  42. SpringGreen.:
    Apple off your weeked with a bang๏ผ Judy is at spring green in downtown toronto Tuesday from 9am-9pm with apple and coco. apple is a very beautiful andcaring young lady๏ผkitty is super hot.๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹647-891-0699 ask and text questions thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  43. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  44. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  45. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, MALIYA, MONIKA, ANGEL, MIMI, PREETI, ANGELINA, DIYA, PAYAL PEARL, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (1PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  48. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  49. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, โ™ฅ๏ธRICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Yoga Lucy, Killer Kelly, Adorable Eva, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญLUCY AND KELLY๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  50. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธAmberCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
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