Serious Lower Left Back Pain what is it????someone help

hi heather, just read all the threads and i have been working as a massage therapist since 1996, i have spent a lot of time working on symptoms like this and have found that the majority of the time the problem has been the deep pirformus muscle, found in the glute area and passes close to the sciatic nerve. this has sometimes been referred to has the walletpocket syndrom. three trigger point sessions usually gets to the root of the problem. hope that helps....
 
If you mark exactly the location of the pain, I can compose scheme simple enough to do yourself as the points may be on fingers joints or around the nails.
Just marking the points by a colour pen already may help.
Plus a massage of the corresponding reflex zone on a finger.
Please PM if interested.
 
hi heather

I too have been suffering with severe back pain on my left hand side wich the pain trvels through my left ass cheek and down my leg an have a numbing sensation in my foot.was sent for an mri scan wich revealed a disc had prolapsed and leaking its fluid onto my nerve hence the left side pain.have seen the specialist and he came straight out with,i need surgery. i feel u should push for an m.r.i scan but be prepared for a waiting game as i am and have been living with the pain since sept 08.gaz
 
I can empathise with your situation completely, as my similar condition went undiagnosed by the NHS for 3 years!

Everyone who posted to you on this site mean well, but without a full, unbiased, clear and independantly reviewed MRI Scans & X-rays you are just taking you GP's & Consultants 'best guestimates' as gospal

I saw 3 GP's, 3 Pysiotherapists, 2 Radiologists, 3 House Doctors and 2 Consultant Orthopeadic Surgeons and all of them missed my 'very common' condition, a condition that sounds very similar to yours!

I had an arthritic condition called (Osteophyte overgrowth of my facet joint). This bony overgrowth (bone spur) was on the underside of my L5 facet joint and when I stood upright or extended backwards it squoshed my sciatic nerve root at the foraminal opening as it left my spinal canal. This was completley missed by most & purposely ignored by others!

The only way to remove this pain is to remove the cause, all the other suggestions you have seen are just postponing the inevitable!
If it is the same as me or similar, the only NHS option available is called open back laminectomy. This is a highly destructive, invasive and poorly researched lumber decompression surgery, which in the long term will leave you with as much pain and possibly worse pain than you have now!

To save yourself from a protracted period of frustration, depression and deterioration I suggest the following:

1) Source and purchase a private MRI Scan & Load Bearing X-ray,
also pay for an independant Radiologist to view it!
Make sure that the clinic you choose is as far away from your
trust area as you can phyically manage, as this will remove 'as much as
possible' any possibility of professional bias in the report's results.
The written results and plates will go to your GP, but make sure the
clinic sends you a full copy to your home. (usually a disc)

2) Ask your Consultant Surgeon politely 'but very firmly' to supply
you with information regarding the Safety & Efficiness rates of any
procedures he proposes, together with the results of all related
Randomised Control Trials (RCT's) for these procedure.
If your Consultant refuses or becomes evasive, it is because like
most NHS Spinal Units, they don't record or keep this information.

3) Research the 'spirit lifting' information you will find on the
following web site links.
www.spinal-foundation.org
www.bonati.com
www.laserspineinstitute.com
www.microspine.com
NOW compare the available written evidence of the 'Minimaly
Invasive Spinal Surgery' (MISS) (ELF) (ELD) ect: against standard NHS
open back decompression surgery! There is very little NHS evidence so
it will not take long! Your Consultant will probably say their surgery is
Minimally Invase, it's not! Do your research!!

4) For pity sake! Just like I did, Book an appointment with Mr. Martin
Knight ASAP.
The NHS will brief against Mr. Knight and his treatments 'off the record'
and you may be swayed, but just ask them to repeat those concerns
in writing and see what they say!
They will probably refuse NHS funding for this 'cutting edge' treatment
Stateing a lack of clinical evidence, dont be fooled, compare the
available research. You will wonder why they all don't do ELF &ELD!

With regards to to your sagging bottom, its probably just muscle wastage, this is caused because your other leg is carrying most of your total body weight as it trys to protect the leg with the transfered pains in it. This is normal for this illness and can be put right with excercise after surgery.

Do you research!! Its the best way!! No one will care for you like you!!

PS: Use a good Osteopath to check you all over, even if they can't locate the pain source, they should be able to rule out other possible causes and thereby eliminate red herrings and save time!

Best of luck!!
 
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  41. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  43. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  44. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Petite Korean๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ทGirl Eva working with Sweet Beautiful Japanese New Cummer to Canada Feifei ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  46. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: SARAH, SUSAN, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl, 5'4" & 116 Lbs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services.
  50. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch line up with superstars like sunny , gabby , elena , kiki , Ella and cindy. At top notch wellness
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