pet massage ethics/laws

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is there any compiled information about whether or not a person who does pet massage need be a licensed people massage therapist?

i'm in florida, but was asking in general too.
 


That is a very sticky question. There are currently no state laws that regulate animal massage. Although, I think Washington state has some sort of legislation in place. There are many Veterinarians that are of the opinion though that massage therapy falls under their practice, and to practice animal massage any other way would be a felony.

I have had heated discussions with the FL Board of Vet Med regarding this issue. And, it is true that some Veterinarians are trying to keep their profession from referring out for any kind of complementary therapies, even acupuncture and chiropractic.

Both ABMP and AMTA cover animal massage with proof of certification.

I learned equine massage by apprenticing while in human massage school, and then got certified in canine massage from a program in Ohio. One of the reasons I chose this particular school was because it offered national ce credit. But the truth is, most of these programs are geared to pet owners, not massage therapists. These certification courses were created by people - massage therapist animal lovers - just like you and me. A lot of their teaching centers on massage theory and strokes, not animal anatomy & physiology, pathology, biomechanics of the particular animal, or animal behavior. And, these programs are not inexpensive. There are very few programs available where one needs to be a human massage therapist, pt, vet tech, or vet as a prerequisite for enrolling.

In Florida, I was offering canine massage classes at a local Tech School, as well as, my Vet's office. Both Vets there approved my work, so I felt very lucky to have their support.

My recommendation would be to apprentice, or create your own routine. Invest your hard earned money, effort, and time into gathering as many resources as you can for learning the animal inside and out, and take available behavior courses, etc. Volunteer at the local SPCA or Humane Society. Shelter animals need this work!

Here is a link to a compilation of states and their animal massage law, according to IAAMB (looks like it was last updated in 2003): http://www.iaamb.org/Newsletters/StateLawcharNov2003.htm

Are you interested in all pet massage? There is a great equine program near Ocala. Let me know if you're interested and I'll post the link.
 
Additional link

Here is a link to the Yahoo! group: AVMA Antidote Lobby Group. It is a very knowledgeable group of people fighting for their rights to work on animals.

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/AVMAantidote/

(From the front page)

This International group was formed initially, as a forum to allow discussions between animal owners and natural therapists who worked with animals. It was also a platform to inform and oppose legislative restrictions, anywhere in the world, that would restrict animal owners choices and is united to preserve our freedom of work and free choice.

Currently, but not restricted to, we are sharing ideas and information to stop the AVMA from 'approving' their new 'guidelines' and trying to have them passed into law.

These guidelines are outlined at http://www.avma.org/education/mvpa/default.asp
http://www.avma.org/education/mvpa/mvpa_commentary.pdf

Welcome, JOIN with us NOW!

Members from this group are welcome to submit information sites that provide information on your options.

Its for the Animals -
http://itsfortheanimals.com/AVMADFT.HTM

The AHAA has volunteered to collect copies of everyone's AVMA comment letters so they do not get misplaced. http://www.ancienthealingarts.org/vets-1-03.htm

IAATH http://www.iaath.com

If Your Horse Could Talk. We will be posting a special internet webcast on the AVMA Proposal. I'll be chatting with Craig Denega for his view and hopefully with Mary Ann Simmonds. We are hoping to have this produced and available on my site, http://www.naturalhorsetalk.com
 


that's great info!

thanks intuitouch and massage hound
 


MassageHound said:
I learned equine massage by apprenticing while in human massage school, and then got certified in canine massage from a program in Ohio. One of the reasons I chose this particular school was because it offered national ce credit.

If you don't mind my asking, where was this program in ohio? Sounds interesting.
 
Pet Massage Programs in Ohio

Hi klauss...I took the one in Toledo (PetMassage), there is also another one in Circleville (Integrated Touch Therapy). Both offer CEUs. :)
 


KindredSpirits said:
Here is a link to a compilation of states and their animal massage law, according to IAAMB (looks like it was last updated in 2003): http://www.iaamb.org/Newsletters/StateLawcharNov2003.htm
Looks like this list has been updated: http://iaamb.org/reference/state-laws-2005.html
 


As for NY, you must be a Vet Tech in order to perform massage on animals. But in NJ there is no restriction. My school offers the class once a year, but it didn't seem as if it was worth the money, because it wouldn't be something I would practice on other than my dog...
 
proposed AVMA Model Veterinary Practice Act

http://www.ancienthealingarts.org/vets-1-03.htm

Very interesting article - from Ancient Healing Arts Association - regarding the proposed AVMA Model Veterinary Practice Act from 12/2002.
 


Interesting animal massage articles from massagetherapy.com: http://www.massagetherapy.com/articles/index.php/article_id/409

The Vet's Perspective
Are some veterinarians resisting the massage movement because they fear infringement on their turf, or is it just a lack of awareness? For the most part, the holistic veterinary movement has emphasized acupuncture and chiropractic medicine, leaving massage out in the cold. Dr. Susan Wynn of Marietta, Ga., specializing in animal acupuncture and herbs, suggests several reasons for this. "Acupuncture and chiropractic were introduced in schools earlier and are more familiar to doctors," she said. "They're more dramatic. I can get an (acupuncture) effect in 10 minutes. Veterinarians are used to people demanding results quickly. Massage takes time, money and effort."

Holistic veterinarian Dr. Robert Silver, of Boulder, Colo., concurs with the time factor. "There's a lot of overhead in vet practice and it's hard to get it served even by acupuncture or chiropractic." But Silver does refer out for massage, saying his clinic space is too small to accommodate an in-house therapist. He recommends massage as an integral part of animal care for treating problems, rehabilitation and recovery, and maintaining wellness. Pointing out a recent veterinary article on cancer care in which massage is listed as an appropriate modality, he said in terminal cases, massage can be very beneficial for diminishing aches and pains. "It's a very bonding experience for the owner," he adds. "I give out handbooks on massage and encourage owners to do it themselves." Silver suggests the current growth in holistic animal care is in part due to the veterinarians. "Vets themselves are humans who work too much and develop ailments better served through complementary procedures. Many have sought out alternative therapy for their own health and in the process gained a new perspective."

According to Dr. Jan Facinelli, another factor of influence is research. Facinelli is an avid supporter of massage, chiropractic and acupuncture, and includes them in her Denver practice. She noted that veterinarians want scientific proof documented by their associates rather than laymen. "If it's not standard, scientific proof, they're not going to give it credence. When benefits are documented, then truth will speak for itself," she said. "We want to make sure it does no harm."

Oregon energy practitioner Dr. Donna Starita is chairperson of IAATH. "What we're seeing over and over is lack of awareness and education," she said. "I try to help vets understand what I'm doing." She encourages a relationship of mutual respect between vet and therapist. If your are taking your pet to a veterinarian and a massage therapist, it's important to keep both informed of the treatment protocols of each practitioner.

Who's Qualified
The 2001 guidelines on complementary and alternative therapies established by the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) do not specifically address the use of massage by a non-veterinarian therapist, as did the 1996 version that required supervision and referral from the treating practitioner. Rather, there is a broad encompassing of CAM modalities to be used at the discretion of the individual veterinarian. Within that directive comes caution that the safety and effectiveness of the treatment "should be proven by scientific method." Dr. Craig Smith of AVMA headquarters explained the basic premise of the new policy: "Medicine is medicine and regardless of what treatment is being used, the same basic principles should apply." The veterinarian conducts an exam, establishes a diagnosis and consults with the owner to decide on a course of action. "If that animal can benefit from those modalities, the vet has the right to seek it out. They also have the responsibility to follow up and monitor the animal's progress, in that they are not providing the treatment." They are also responsible for abiding by the state regulations, all of which are accommodated by the flexibility of the guidelines. The individual is encouraged to use a combination of their knowledge and experience to make a decision. However, Smith stated, "We still think that animals receive the best care when a veterinarian is involved in that care."

Animal massage is on the cusp of becoming mainstream. The success of each case brings visibility and validation to the practice, and with each new well-trained, dedicated and passionate massage therapist entering the field, there is movement forward.
 
IAATH - Legislative Updates

IAATH - International Alliance for Animal Therapy and Healing - has some Legislative Updates (developments and pending legislation) regarding veterinarians and allied animal healthcare practitioners. Info regarding Florida and Texas. Link for updates, click HERE.

There is also a link at the bottom of the page to Coalition of Natural Heatlh. They are lobbying in every state for both animal and human health care rights.
 
Kentucky Animal Massage Legalities

***Also, see another Animal Therapies thread regarding a Legalities point of view...specifically from Admin of the Kentucky Board of Veterinary Examiners.
 
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    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Saturday May 31, 2025, our attendants will be Ivy ๐Ÿค—, Lucy ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿฅฐ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ and Sophie โ˜€. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  33. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  34. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Young girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  35. Nu spring spa888:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Germany๐ŸŒธViennese ๐ŸŒธ Korean girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  36. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–HAPPY Friday!!!๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•36D Flora, Echo, Cici, Eva, Coco, JPN Yui, Happy, Cindy, Jasmine & Aaliyah โ€” pamper yourself๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss
  37. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HELEN (3PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  38. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  39. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  41. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services.
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10to11.ensuit shower room available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone.amazing bj๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big big boob,strong massage,happy the end,very friendly ,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ 3 girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  47. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: KELLY, LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE
  50. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
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