Ontario under lock down

Im talking about flights from high risks countries where the virus is a lot worse. I see little if any restrictions on air travel. Flights from Europe (except England now) and the US land everyday. Im betting few follow the self quarantine rules given that no one can check.
Actual quarantine should b inna hotel so it can be verified... they are pretty empty now anyway, could use the biz... 🏨

When u quarantine @ home, virus spreads 2 whole family & the associated squeezes... 🐛
 
Ya the world is going for a shit. This could bring all the economies into a depression like 29
 
Poor countries might not have the ability to track and report on numbers. But at the same time many are in hotter climates and may be able to spend more time outdoors and distanced. Depending on the country (e.g. Asian countries) they could be more likely to follow the rules and wear masks. Poorer countries would also have lower life expectancy so they have less vulnerable old people than richer countries where the death percentage is the highest (they just don’t have the same amount of people aged 70+ to kill off from the virus).

China will lie about their numbers. But at the same time they are more likely to order the most strict lock-downs

Separate facilities for Covid patients? Brick and mortar facilities with HVAC, ventilation equipment, etc would take too long to build for what should be a temporary problem until we have wide vaccination. Tents won’t do well in our winter weather.

What type of Covid related treatment resources are you referring to? We have access to information and safety measures. We have secured the supply of N95 masks and other PPE for front line workers. They are working on the distribution issues including security. Facilities I already mentioned. Canada has purchased more doses than we need and will donate excess to poorer countries. The most important resource is not space but trained front line workers and their capacity to helponly a certain number of patients at a time. It’ll take years to train new nurses and doctors.

You raise a good point with regard to the warmer vs colder climes, but I don't think that explains all of the numbers if you compare states. California and Texas are both mostly warm. Or compare the Dakotas to Rhode Island and Connecticut. Death per million stats are comparable, the Dakotas are if anything colder. In the Republican Dakotas there was never really a lockdown, in the Democrat eastern states there were.

I agree that China lies, but I do find it strange that this is not more frequently and openly said in the media.

As for the "covid-related" resources I was talking about, I never hear how many ICU beds we've added in the country since way back when it was all about "flattening the curve" for example. As well, on that point, there's the whole issue of how we could have handled this. China may lie, but I suspect they were on the right track when they aggressively segregated their covid cases. If we had the maturity and toughness to accept some of those same measures here, this could have gone much better.
 
You raise a good point with regard to the warmer vs colder climes, but I don't think that explains all of the numbers if you compare states. California and Texas are both mostly warm. Or compare the Dakotas to Rhode Island and Connecticut. Death per million stats are comparable, the Dakotas are if anything colder. In the Republican Dakotas there was never really a lockdown, in the Democrat eastern states there were.

I agree that China lies, but I do find it strange that this is not more frequently and openly said in the media.

As for the "covid-related" resources I was talking about, I never hear how many ICU beds we've added in the country since way back when it was all about "flattening the curve" for example. As well, on that point, there's the whole issue of how we could have handled this. China may lie, but I suspect they were on the right track when they aggressively segregated their covid cases. If we had the maturity and toughness to accept some of those same measures here, this could have gone much better.

China is a totalitarian military police state where the masses are kept in check by fear. It is relatively easy for Beijing to impose mass programs on their citizens compared to the so called democratic nations . Western culture has made it fashionable for people to have open disdain and disrespect for authority for while now .
 
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@ sy barite

Here’s a Covid map of Los Angeles

Here’s an income distribution map

The poorer areas are getting hit harder. LA is a dense city. These poor people likely cannot work from home and are forced into more close contact situations

State comparison of probability of wearing face masks

lot’s of overlapping factors can influence the case rates: density, income, adherence to wearing masks and social distancing, etc.
 
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Just as a show of hands, is anyone else feeling withdrawal-like symptoms from the lockdown and not going to mpas?

Don't get me wrong, I still think lockdown is the right thing to do to end the pandemic, but I'm feeling shakes and popping a boner at the smallest thing. Jacking off to porn doesn't do anything and my mind is starting to turn into M777

This didn't happen with the first lockdown... Fuck I should have saved some numbers...
 
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