Negotiating with chicas

[funwithsharpthings]

GFE is

DFK
BBBJ
DATY
MSOG

All must be on the table or is just is not GFE

Here is it defined from a professional hobby site:

GFE (Girlfriend Experience) Defined


GFE is defined in two parts; The Subjective and The Objective.


In order for the term to be properly applied, BOTH parts must be satisfied.


1. The Subjective: a session in which a female provider behaves like a male hobbyist's girlfriend or shows (artificial) emotional intimacy beyond the sex act; paid-for female companionship.


2. The Objective: To be GFE the provider must offer the following elements DFK, BBBJ, MSOG, DATY & FS



The hobbyist might not take advaneforum.xxxe of all offerings but all must be available.



Both the Objective and Subjective elements must be met in order to be "GFE". A girl that provides the objective Menu items but does so in a rushed, detached or mechanical way is not GFE. Conversely, if the session does create that intimacy but does not allow for any part of the GFE menu then it in turn is NOT "GFE".


There is no such thing as GFElite, almost GFE, safe GFE, covered GFE... it is either GFE or it is not. A provider that provides a real GFE session is often in higher demand and as such, providers who limit their menus to eliminate BBBJ or DATY or DFK... are attempting to redefine the term to elicit the clientele that seeks GFE service. The term is defined by those who first created it... the hobbyists. And it is not open to interpretation, debate, or modification.


Providers who provide what they feel meets the subjective side of the definition but not the objective are encouraged to find a different way to describe their services. "intimate", "Mistress experience", "Sensual", ...etc. JUST NOT "GFE"


DFK, BBBJ, MSOG, DATY & FS are essential elements and while they do not themselves define GFE, the elimination of ANY of them certainly disqualifies the proper use of the term.

 

[Wyldout]

Thanks, for the PM, I will read it when I have a chance. So, is this a part time thing for you or a full time business?

I just want to say I have nothing against you personally... I simply want my money to go to the chicas because they are the ones who are doing all the work. Besides, it must be demoralizing to stand on the street waiting for people to come and say "Do you do anal?" as a opening line of a conversation. The chicas may be of a lower classes people who can't even use silverware, put they put their dignity aside and I don't like to see someone else take a cut from their income...

 

[Craven]

I disagree.... with porn experience, it is very hard to last longer than 20 minutes.... after 20 minutes, I am too exhuasted to do anything.... can't even get dressed yet alone go for another fuck.....

 

[Christian]

You cannot get GFE in 20 minutes...one of the most essential items is MSOG

 

[dan94adibi]

Do you think I have the time to brain wash more than 60 chicas? Many, many of the chicas hardly even know me except for the parties. The taxi driver are the ones that really know them as I am in the office all day and I don't have chicas hanging out with me.

I'm going to shoot you a pm, that may help a little in your understanding.

 

[Pompal 09.]

The ones I banged and dined with afterwards all work for themselves. They come to TJ with chicas they know, and rent apartment with other chicas from their hometown, and the money they earn are theirs to keep. That goes for majority of the girls on the street. Most of them don't do drugs, in fact, some don't even drink or smoke... they prey to mother Mary before fucking and ask for forgiveness (no shit)

I don't know what you mean about giving 100% of their money away. Like I said before, I love your knowlege and contribution to this site, but I disagree with your line of work. Further, I respect the chicas the same way the hunters respect the prey they kill for food.

 

[Josephine]

lots of them offer full service for $20........ BJ, completely naked, any and all positions...
lots of them offer GF experience for $40.... BBBJ, completely naked, any and all positions, balls sucking and anal....
some even offer porn experience for $80....BBBJ, completely naked, any and all positions, balls sucking and anal, BB fucks/anals, hair pulling, spankings, tits fucks, cim, and any other requests....

 

[gahrahstah]

How do I know the girls won't tell me what you fed them? Your story is just way out there....

Lucky there is a non fiction novel about TJ Zona Norte: ZONA NORTE: The Post-Structural Body of Erotic Dancers and Sex Workers in Tijuana, San Diego and Los Angeles: An Auto/ethnography of Desire and Addiction by Michael Hemmingson. The author had also done interviews all around Zona Norte, including people like you. I look forward to read the book... I have already saw some interviews on Youtube....

If things are truly as you say they are, then I want to be a padrote, instead of a monger....

 

[Dark Mistress]

So you prefer a chica that gives 100% of her money away and does not care to give good service?

 

[Saber]

Because of the bargain prices that can be found in La Zona I been trying to holdout over here. Until yesterday where I couldn't do it anymore. And I was actually outside one of my regular's place a couple of days before yesterday but decided not to call her. I guess I'm changing my strategy a bit. But I'll see what's my next move.

 

[lonesome star]

I was talking about Mexico. Every chica that I know that is no longer with their padrotes, wished they were....they talk about the love they have and how good they felt to be responsible for the nice car and house he has and that they gave birth through their pussies.

I do work with the chicas....they do what they want, while I do the ads, I answer the e-mails and phone calls and I call them when requested. They sometimes say "no" and I tell them I will let them know when requested again. I work daily....they work when they want.

You are all wrong about pimps providing protection, shelter and clients in the US.

You are watching too many movies to have those ideas, and you are believing what the chicas tell you which is what the padrote tells her to tell the clients.

Stop by one of our parties and be anonymous. I don't need to know who you are...and you can talk to the chicas about prostitution and find out the real truth.

 

[ben lam]

And here is some more shit on your parade. One of the prettiest SG I ever fucked, once I paid for her to take her clothes off only to expose a C-section scar that looked like a drunk with a dull can opener did the surgery, it was hard to finish. That was the end of street pussy for me.

 

[debabrata h]

I am interested in knowing more about this. First I think you mean sg's....and I agree there are many very pretty ones....but I think it is nearly impossible to get GFE with them and especially for $40...can you tell us what GFE is and how long you were with these chicas?

 

[John de Witt]

Sorry to rain on your parade bro, I know you mean well, but ALL those young innocent street girls hand over the majority of their money to their padrote. Sadly they all get used.

There is no such thing as some young uneducated cutie jumping on a bus to TJ, and then walk down Constitution and take over a long time money spot. They are in TJ because they were recruited.

 

[wendy c]

This may be true in America, where there are a lot of abused girls who look for pimps for emotional support, and to support drug habbits. But most street girls in Mexico are not that type... some only work a few months to open business, since in Mexico, it is harder to get loans... Furthermore, most SGs have young children to support, they got knocked up young and now has no where to turn.... Teresa, the girl in my other thread, works for herself... I know that for a fact.... her money goes to her restaurant she wants to open and a house for her family..... and that goes for dozens of chicas I had in the past....

I hate to go deeper into this because that's not what the readers like to read.... in conclusion, in the US, in area where its not legal, the pimps provide protection, shelter and clients.... since prostutution is legal in Zona Norte, most of the girls work for themselves....

Sampson... if you really work for the girls, then you would pick up their dry cleannings, buy their groceries and clean their apartments....

 

[Monkey Cheese]

I only do street girls because of their innocence and the girl next door look. In addition, I don't want a middleman to take a cut from the girls (sorry Sampson, you are a great contributor this this site, but I don't like the fact you and people like you make a living from the girls).... some of those girls are so innocent that they only had minimum sexual experience before coming to TJ. Also, they tend to be younger, which is what I like the most....

 

[little big mama]

Was in TJ a few weeks ago. In the mood for SWs and walked the alley behind Adeletas. Found several very attractive girls and over the course of the night selected 3 – all around an eight on the ten scale - $40/pop and GFE from 2 of them. It looks like the economy is hitting TJ too…

 

[+?+(?_?)+?+]

All the SGs will have a favorite Loncheria. The intent of my post was to take a SG to lunch that has you cranked up, but have never been with?

Setting that aside, the Hotel Nelson is a great place and very close by for a nice meal. I eat there a lot. No male waiters anymore. Which is good. And a couple of the chicas speak english.

 

[bellelayne]

Actually, taking a chica before or after a session to a decent, middle-of-the-road restaurant in TJ is one of my favorite things to do. My favorita and I used to go to Los Polluelos, a dynamite little chicken rotisserie restaurant close to La Zona. It was great.

Anybody (for example: TJ_CA) have any recommendations regarding which restaurants the SGs like to frequent? I have read that sometimes they are intimidated to go to certain restaurants. The Hotel Nelson has a pretty good restaurant. Heck, there are many decent places close to La Zona.

 

[Mira]

I doubt their is a lender. Who is going to lend to a young chica that kind of money?

They pay the padrote because they love him and the more money they make the more they can show their appreciation. It is pretty much the reverse for PLM's....the more they pay, the more they love their paradita.