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Hi all,
I have contacted all of the lead stakeholders in massage (well the ones I had in my address book anyway), including training providers, lead body members, qualifications managers etc to ask what they think the minimum number of hours/days in class and supervised by a tutor, that a student should have to attend to be competently trained in body massage. This doesnt include home study or case studies, just in class tuition.

Unfortunately for students, and training providers, there are so many interpretations of the definition of 'guided learning hours', 'contact hours', 'notional hours', that many students and training providers/tutors are completely baffled.

As therapists, and or trainers, what do you think the minimum should be?

Im really trying my hardest to get clear guidelines on a minimum level of classroom based training, so that there can be no confusion, or grey areas, and I think the more therapists that get involved in this, the better.

Hope you can help
 
this is the minimum standard set down by the lead body:

Subject Unit Hours
A Anatomy, Physiology and Pathology MT1 โ€“M5 - 60 hours
B Massage (Whole Body) MT1 โ€“ M1&M2 - 80 hours
C Business, Professional and Ethical Studies MT1 โ€“ M3 - 10 hours
D Health and Safety in the Workplace MT1 โ€“ M4 - 10 hours
E First Aid MT1- M6 - 5 hours

Case Studies and Home Study
A minimum of 15 clients, with a minimum of two treatments per client, for at least 8 of them.
The overall total should be at least 36 treatments. These treatments should evaluate the
effectiveness of massage therapy for clients overt a period of time. They should also be used
by students as reflective practice for self evaluation and continuing professional development.
In addition to the above hours, students should be fully aware that considerable home study is
required. The hours required will be determined by the students ability and commitment, but
are unlikely to be les that 250 during the training as a whole.

This is also the minimum required for CNHC regulation.

The problem is, it is stated as guided/contact hours, so there is still some ambiguity.

I personally believe that everything apart from the body massage and the first aid practical, can be studied at home, so the A&P etc can be done via distance learning.

That would leave 85 hours. Done over an average of 7 hours per day would be around 12 days in class, but unfortunately the guidance states guided/contact, so if we split that 50/50, then that would leave 6 days of practical training.....as a minimum, and I would say that would have to depend on class sizes. I think a small class of 6 students could probably get through it, with a good tutor, but if there was double that, or even more, then the number of practical days should be increased.

I honestly think we need to have a minimum number of class hours set down, to rid this profession of the weekend warriors, who churn out these fully accredited and insurable level 3 massage courses in just 1 and 2 days, IMO it is damaging to our profession.
 
my posting which appeared here has been removed by the moderating team because I questioned / critised advertising policies of this forum.
 
People can become Level 3 massage therapists in 2 days?! I knew things were getting bad, but didn't realise how bad!
 
Hi ST

Maybe the solution would be to limit the practical session to X amount of students, or that a larger group had to have extra assistant tutors, improving the student to tutor ratio. So for example, student teacher ratio of 8:1, 16:2, 24:3.... If it can be policed properly of course. Not a problem for theory contact time with a bigger group.

As for GLR, I thought that it had to be that amount of time if taught state-funded college. Well it was when I was teaching. Each lesson plan was looked at by the AO, and if it was too short it would be rejected. I know, it happened to me once. So I said to the AO that the rationale quoted "recommended GLH" and they replied that they had to make sure it was being complied to because of QCA rules.

So going back to your OP, yes I personally think that GLH should be minimum not recommended and that goes for private schools as well.

Best wishes

RP
 
Hi RP,
I was involved in discussion with a member of an AO the other day, and was told that despite the QCF definition of guided learning hours being 'contact hours', the AO was adamant that it was just guidance, so its no wonder there is so much confusion, as they stated that eg 360 GLH could mean just two days worth of contact hours! Crazy, and not what QCF are saying.
 
taken from the massage lead body, GCMT website this morning:

[Q.] I have limited time to train to be a massage therapist. Would a distance learning course meet the requirements?

[A]Very often distance learning courses do not cover the recommended number of hours of practical training. Massage is an intensely practical profession and the student needs a minimum of 80 hours of practical, hands on training to ensure they are safe to practice.
Many Colleges of Further Education teach part time courses, in the evenings and occasionally at weekends. Completion of these courses would allow you to join a professional association and be regulated by CNHC.

There we go, clear guidelines from the lead body, which has been set, not by regulatory boards, or government advisors, or the medical profession, but a group of massage therapists, most of which have many many years experience in therapy and education, and this is their expert opinion.
 
As well as working on a mobile basis, I manage and work in two Holistic clinics. My business partner and I have been interviewing all day for a new massage therapist in our central London clinic.

We have (so far) turned down four applicants because they studied the A and P aspect through long distance learning and also had insufficient classroom time.

If we are going to keep the massage industry professional and free from these people who think long distance or weekend 'wonder' courses are acceptable we need to start making a stand. Welldone Sportstherapy, for getting the ball rolling. I would hate to go for a massage only to find out the therapist had qualified through distance learning...classroom time is what is important, so that the tutor can correct you etc.
 
I agree with ST & Ectomorph. We do corporate massage & often get calls from people looking for work. It's very depressing explaining to someone who has done just one or two day training in good faith that no it's not worth worth coming in for an interview, yes there is a huge difference between someone who is fully qualified & someone who isn't and no we're not going to let them loose on our clients.

I've no problem with one or two day courses as taster or top up but it's unfair & misleading when they masquerade as practitioner courses.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (9PMโ€“2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  42. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA (Hungary), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
  45. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE (11am-9pm): from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim. CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, NANCY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. NANCY is a curvy and very friendly Spanish girl, who has all the versatile skills you need. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and sexy Coco, pretty Ella and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today. Niko and Kiki. They are both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back walking were very good.
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
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