Marketing when your right out of school

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I have a question for those of you who took the leap right out of school into your own practice. When you're just starting out and you only have your required classes, and not a whole lot of additional CEUs under your belt yet? Marketing tells us we need to set ourself apart somehow or find a niche. But until you grow, how do you sell yourself with limited skill sets and experience?

Thanks!
 
Marketing when your right out of school

Vita said:
But until you grow, how do you sell yourself with limited skill sets and experience?

I personally felt that I did need more experience before I could effectively market myself. To get some of this experience in the beginning I volunteered to work at some health fairs and sporting events. Not only did this help me with marketing myself, but the volunteer work also directly resulted in me getting some very good paying clients as well. :smt004
 


I started fresh out of school.

Sure, you can take a whole lot of CEU's, but you also need to work on bodies to get all that info to soak in.

Start out with what you know. So you know Swedish, do that. Do something! The more bodies you touch the better you will become.

When you are new there are a few things you can do to set yourself apart. One is price. Another is marketing to those you have already worked on, giving referal discounts or just plain asking for the referals. You can advertise too. I had quite a bit of luck advertising. I usually offered a discount to new clients as it is a good way to determine if your advertising is actually working!
 


I think if you're a new massage therapist, your best bet is to market to new massage clients (people who have never had a massage, or rarely have had one). These clients don't know what all the modalities are anyway, and they don't care about continuing education. But they do know what tension feels like, and they do want to feel better! ABMP has two great brochures: "What To Expect During a Massage or Bodywork Session" & "Why Should I Get a Massage?" If you're not an ABMP member, you can buy similar brochures from http://www.info4people.com .Or you can write your own. The goal is to entice people to try a massage, and educate them about the many benefits. Do the same with your adverstising. Focus your marketing on words like Relaxation, Rejuvenation, Tension Relief, Stress Relief, etc. One of our members has a great website, with just this type of focus: http://www.kathrynhackett.com

That's what I did when I first graduated from massage school, and a lot of those newbies became massage regulars.
 


Great Tip Blisss!!

But wouldnt it be a great idea after being in business for a (say about 10 years or so) while to market to the massage coniseur? "Massaging Miami's Best since 1985." "Only the best clients walk through our doors." on a sign outside of my door, "Caution - Relaxed People Crossing." Something like that.
 


GrateLakes said:
Great Tip Blisss!!

But wouldnt it be a great idea after being in business for a (say about 10 years or so) while to market to the massage coniseur? "Massaging Miami's Best since 1985." "Only the best clients walk through our doors." on a sign outside of my door, "Caution - Relaxed People Crossing." Something like that.
Oh, I love the sign idea: "Caution - Relaxed People Crossing". Every MT (new and experienced) could use that right now. Are you going to put that up outside your new office? It would be so perfect! Relaxed people really do walk out in a daze.

Also, the cool thing is that in 10 years, your old clients (who maybe got their first massage with you) will have become massage connoisseurs themselves! You grow together. I have clients who got their first massage from me who now request unusual modalities like ortho-bionomy and lymph drainage. (After I've given them the chance to experience them.) They never would have booked an appointment for that before trying regular massage first.
 


LOL

It would be a hit. I will do it!

How big should it be? Not too... I would want it to be subtle. You know, the kind of sign that people would see a couple times and not realize it was there. And then at their 3rd or 4th view they ask if that sign out there is new.

Right smack dab above the door.... Yeah... that's the ticket! Yeah...
 


GrateLakes said:
How big should it be? Not too... I would want it to be subtle. You know, the kind of sign that people would see a couple times and not realize it was there. And then at their 3rd or 4th view they ask if that sign out there is new. Right smack dab above the door.... Yeah... that's the ticket! Yeah...

How about this? See, I'm not about subtle. :lol:
Caution-relaxed.gif
 


I felt like having some fun, so did a little design in a software program called Picture It. I got the dancing person from the Microsoft Clipart Gallery Online (it's called a ScreenBean.)

Vita, sorry for hijacking your thread. I'm running on massageplanetfeine & sugar tonight. I'll PM Gratelakes further about this, and repost your original question to get this thread back on track:

Vita said:
I have a question for those of you who took the leap right out of school into your own practice. When you're just starting out and you only have your required classes, and not a whole lot of additional CEUs under your belt yet? Marketing tells us we need to set ourself apart somehow or find a niche. But until you grow, how do you sell yourself with limited skill sets and experience?
 


Blisss said:
Vita, sorry for hijacking your thread. I'm running on massageplanetfeine & sugar tonight. I'll PM Gratelakes further about this, and repost your original question to get this thread back on track:

Oh, hijack away! The massageplanetfeine & sugar really brought out some new sort of creative goodness in you! :lol:

And I just realized that the headline of this post is grammatically incorrect! I really honestly do know when to use contractions. I blame it on the 24 hour flu bug I had yesterday.

Anyway, I really appreciate the input. You have given me some things to think about!

I had about 11 months after school and before licensing where I was travelling a lot for my main job. During this time I gave 4 massages a week (within the legal and ethical guidelines of my state) in order to get some practice on new bodies, try some things I was learning and attempt to iron out some of the things I knew weren't so good about my massage.

I do belong to the abmp and was perusing the brochures suggested above this weekend! I'm also focusing very hard on customer service and making the experience something special, and doing a lot of "education" (brochures, newsletter, info sheets to hand out post-massage). This way I don't have to have the focus shine so brightly on what little experience I have.

Vitalia, I have quite a few large chair massage events coming up and while I can't get paid for them I am able to advertise all I want. I will take your lead and use this as a marketing and learning experience. Thanks!
 


Whats the first thing they say at any multi level marketing seminar? Start with your warm market. That is start with the people you know. That generally is a good base. Also you can give them a reasonable rate and then the referals will flow.

Jason
 


jasond said:
Whats the first thing they say at any multi level marketing seminar? Start with your warm market. That is start with the people you know. That generally is a good base. Also you can give them a reasonable rate and then the referals will flow.
Be careful about the challenge of dual relationships, though. In my experience, clients who are also friends are the most likely to arrive late, cancel at the last minute, ask for discounts, and just generally push your professional boundaries.
 


Vita said:
Vitalia, I have quite a few large chair massage events coming up and while I can't get paid for them I am able to advertise all I want. I will take your lead and use this as a marketing and learning experience. Thanks!

You're very welcome! :) I still remember what it was like just starting out and how excited I was about doing some of the chair massage events. One of the very first was set up by a local acupuncturist who arranged for me to volunteer some time at a local hospital doing chair massage for a "Nurses Appreciation" event.

You can't imagine how good it made me feel when I saw the flyers inside the hospital and discovered that they were already lining up and waiting 30 minutes before the event was supposed to start. I would still have to rate this as one of the most positive experiences I have had during my massage career. :)
 


Blisss said:
Be careful about the challenge of dual relationships, though. In my experience, clients who are also friends are the most likely to arrive late, cancel at the last minute, ask for discounts, and just generally push your professional boundaries.

I'll be honest, when I spent the year giving away my services (I wasn't licensed so I couldn't accept anything but still wanted to work on my skills), I never expected to transfer any of those clients to paying clients. True to form, when I was finally licensed, they continued to want free massage. I set a firm boundary and while I've taken on a few friends as paying clients, most are brand new or have been referred. I haven't had any problems yet, but it was enough of a concern that I reviewed my policies upfront and let them know they would be held to the same "rules" as everyone else.

Bliss, (or anyone) in your experience have you had issues with those friends after setting firm boundaries? Or do they usually respect the boundaries after they are set?
 


Vita said:
[Bliss, (or anyone) in your experience have you had issues with those friends after setting firm boundaries? Or do they usually respect the boundaries after they are set?
First of all, congratulations on setting boundaries up-front. As for how your friends will respond, it really depends on the friends. Some will respect you and your boundaries. (Those are your good friends.) Others will test you & make you enforce your boundaries. For this latter group, if they continually push boundaries, I drop them as clients, and quite frankly, it often signals an end to the friendship as well. When a "friend" treats me disrespectfully, I start to question the value of the friendship. That's the tricky thing about dual relationships; problems with one part of the relationship usually spill over into the other.

For me, the majority of my friends fell into the "good friend" category. But for the few who didn't, it was a painful process. Enough so to make me cautious about having friends as clients. And I definitely don't let my client relationships develop into friendships. I don't want to risk the therapeutic relationship.
 


Hey, Vita!

When I started out, I just used bits and pieces of everything I had learned in school: basically Swedish massage with some NMT, Shiatsu and DFR mixed in when appropriate. Never had a complaint! I also read some books on Trigger Point Therapy and other modalities.

And, as Bliss said, your clients will grow right along with you. They love it when I say, "Would you like to try so-and-so I just learned in a workshop?" They are more than happy to be part of your learning process -- especially when they benefit from new treatments!

Obviously we can't know everything -- and my clients are so appreciative when I do some extra research on the web that in some way helps them or gives them additional information. Essentially, we learn together!

What a great job!

Sherry

P.S. Bliss, I SO want that CAUTION sign you designed for my clinic! I tried my graphics program to come up with something similar and had no luck. Is there any way you could get it to us in 8 x 11 format for a fee?
I'll sign up! :D
 


that sign is hilarious...now i'm going to go tool around my picture it stuff and make one too!

anyway, another way you could market yourself is with your hours. if you have "convenient/flexible hours" that will grab people's attention. it doesn't all have to be the massage skills that you're marketing. flexible hours, convenient location &/or any specials will help you stand out.
 
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  31. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  32. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (9PMโ€“2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (11AMโ€“2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  33. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  34. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  35. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beaut
  36. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today, Sophie and Kiki, they are young, pretty and cute and the massage was very professional.
  37. wilson holistic centre:
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  38. pickyreviewerr:
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  39. wonderspa:
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  40. Soul Relax Spa:
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  41. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  42. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  44. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE (12pm-9pm): from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim.
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind and sexy flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind, young pretty popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA, LINDA, LUNA, SHAYLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 15 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, MALIYA, JANVI, MONIKA, BELA, MONICA, MEGAN, JAZMINE, PREETI, PREET ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
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    SUNNY , GABBY , LARISSA , KIKI , MICHELLE AND VANNA AT TOP NOTCH WELLNESS. ALL SUPERSTARS CALL OR TEXT 437-522-9961 TO BOOK
  49. pickyreviewerr:
    BLACKPINK WELLNESS CENTER - Lisa, Apple, Tiffany. CALL OR TEXT 647-395-3188 to book
  50. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
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    โ€ŠLORA , EMMAโ€Š , โ€ŠRACHEL , GIGI AT BestU WELLNESS. Lora and GiGi speaks English. CALL OR TEXT โ˜Ž๏ธ: (437) 830-0913 TO BOOK YOUR APPOINTMENT.
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