I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

Rana

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I must get at least one call a day from the latest parasite-who-can't-do-math in the world of discount deal sites.

A) learn something about my business before you call. If you had any idea the variable cost of a spa treatment was 40-50%, you can only be a parasite if you are asking me to discount services an average of 50% AND you expect to take 50% of what's left. A symbiotic relationship helps both parties -- just ask those little birds on the back of a rhino. A parasite devours its host, which is what will happen when your advertising provider makes $25 and you LOSE $25 on every sale.

B) stop promising things you have no way of delivering. Repeat clients -- they all promise it, but they have no proof they ever deliver any. Clients who came to y ou through a deal site are just going to wait for the next deal on that site or your next deal on another site.

C) Stop touting how many new customers I will get if you business model necessitates me losing money on every new customer's first visit. This is not a grocery store which can give away a 2nd head of lettuce as part of your $300 weekly purchase. Loss-leaders only lead to bankruptcy in low volume, low frequency industries. The last thing I want when I am losing money on every client is more clients. Please learn to do math, or at least understand the basics of business before calling me with your idiotic idea to grow my business a tombstone.

D) Your clients are not high-value clients. They are the biggest complainers -- just read YELP or TripAdivsor -- those who scream the loudest paid the least.

E) Put your money where your mouth - and business model -- is. If you think your brilliant me-too discounting deal site will deliver repeat business, I will give you $0 on first time visits and 100% of 100% of repeat clients for the next 90 days.
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

:iagree: I liked the vent!
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

Nice. Best Groupon rant ever. Can I repost it with a link back here?
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

R & R,

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

I met a great MT through a group coupon site.

Previously, when I searched for an MT using Google, her name never came up. I suppose that I could have searched via the AMTA website but most MTs on the AMTA don't seem to have websites -- at least not in this area -- and I always want more information about the therapist other than their hours and the modalities provided.

Had it not been for the discount site, I don't think that I would have ever known about this MT.

Also, I totally think that a great MT is worth their weight in gold but I was also looking for an MT that offered packages since I like to get massages on a regular basis despite a modest salary. :2cents:
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

Offering packages/series of massages for a discount is not the same thing as offering a rock-bottom first-visit deal. Those DO. NOT. WORK. for the vast majority of us in this industry. We do offer packages/series, but only to clients AFTER they have established themselves to us as "good clients, whom we desire to keep and to reward with a discount to help them come more often". We have found *from experience* that offering first-time clients deep discounts and packages backfires more often than not. Nope-- no more of that.

R&R, I wholeheartedly agree with you. There's this guy in our area who keeps calling-- he runs/markets for a bartering group, and he continues to insist that this would be a great way to not only get new clients, but also to obtain products and services "we need in our business". Um, nope-- not happening. We do barter, but only after much discussion and mutual agreement on terms by both parties, only for things we TRULY NEED and would have spent money for anyway, and only with people we know personally. Oh, and we now also set a "limit" on how much barter business we'll do each month/given time span.

It's taken us a while, but we're finally learning. ;)
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

I always tell these people... "Please remove me from your call list". :)
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

pueppi said:
I always tell these people... "Please remove me from your call list". :)


I usually stop them before they say a word, and say "What discount do you expect?" and "What % of the revenue do you take?" and "if both of these answers are over 30%, we have nothing to talk about"

But every so often they just decide to tell me what they want to tell me, and I make sure to tell them what I want to tell them. I have found the word "parasite" really hits a raw nerve with them. Geez, you would think they were lawyers....
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

It sounds like you are getting a lot of these calls. In my practice, this one sentence has reduced the call load from solicitations to practically nil. It took a while, but I am down to maybe one every 2-3 weeks. I recognize that they are a sales call of some sort and spout out my sentence. :) If they keep talking, I say it again, and then hang up.
 
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    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NANCY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  43. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask question :heart4 :heart4 :heart4
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  45. AliceSpa:
    3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA (12pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. SKY (10:30am-9pm): is Part time girl from Indonesia, petite 5'2", B Cup, 100 Lbs, long black hair, new to the biz.Young, fresh/cute, pretty, submissive, slim tiny waist, fair skin. bbbj
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services...
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. CINDY is slim
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA, MIA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open mind
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and flirty Ivy 36DD with curly body 30โ€™s open mind, young sweet popular Michelle 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Annie Spa:
    Gorgeous Young Petite Girl Judy, Sweet Tiny Young College Student Luna, Stunning Korean Girl Ivy and Busty Sensual Coco today ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’‹โค๏ธ Call or text May to book appointment 416-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏโค๏ธ
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