Get your Butt to the Office!

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I have a former set of associates who believed that if they didn't have appointments they didn't need to be in the office. i remember being baffled by this mentality at the time...much as I'm sure they were by my insisting on sticking around. Well, today I feel more than fulfilled as i had 7 walkins AND an 11 person group book out of nowhere in under 2 hours. Yes, it can suck sitting around and hoping, but persistence pays off. I'm tired.
 
Get your Butt to the Office!

ThatsTheRub said:
I have a former set of associates who believed that if they didn't have appointments they didn't need to be in the office. i remember being baffled by this mentality at the time...much as I'm sure they were by my insisting on sticking around. Well, today I feel more than fulfilled as i had 7 walkins AND an 11 person group book out of nowhere in under 2 hours. Yes, it can suck sitting around and hoping, but persistence pays off. I'm tired.

Great post! You can't build your business if you aren't ready to take on work when it comes.
 
Get your Butt to the Office!

I don't hang around my office when I don't have a client, but I am always on call !!!! And I live across the street from my office office, and if I can take a same day appt. I will.

I know a lot of MT's that need to get over how a same day appt. messes up with their energy for the day
 
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I think it has to do with age, the mindset of "I'm not sitting around for nothing". When I worked at the Salon, I built because I was available and willing to go door to door making that fact known as well. The young girls coming out of school refused to work on Saturdays and would often leave by 11:00 if they hadn't had a walk-in. I can't count how many walk-ins they missed by not being available, but no matter how encouraging I was to help them build, even designing and ordering their business cards for them, I learned that if they weren't 'ready' to market themselves, I couldn't help them. It's the same with my son. He can't stand sitting here so he opts to help his brother doing construction work. That's good and is bringing him money while he waits to build, but until my clients see that he is here and available, they aren't going to be referring him heavily. He is building slowly by taking my overflow and from spa parties and a doctor in town sends all his referrals to him which is great. But, I think part of his reluctance in getting out there and marketing stems from a lack of confidence and worrying about someone saying, "No, I don't want your card". I was the same at his age, so I do understand, but his not being here available to go to work at a moment's notice even if those moments are few and far between right now... is hindering him.

And congrats on your successful day! :)
 
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JLWmassage said:
I don't hang around my office when I don't have a client, but I am always on call !!!! And I live across the street from my office office, and if I can take a same day appt. I will.

I know a lot of MT's that need to get over how a same day appt. messes up with their energy for the day

I work at a day spa and pretty much live "on call." I live only a few blocks away so it doesn't take long to get there when I get the call to come in. We have a predetermined amount of time the owners give us to get there once we get "the call." (Less than an hour.)

It isn't usually a problem... though it can be an issue for me when you go in to do one appointment on short notice like that... and they end up booking you for the rest of the day after you are already there and in service. So you think you are in for one... and now you have 3 or 4. And they have allowed no time to leave to get lunch, so I try to stash a couple granola bars in the purse for this reason... one of those "in case of emergency, break glass" sort of things. :lol:



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I don't understand the mind set of not being available just because no one booked in advance. From what I've seen, most people get into this line of work to help people. People don't always know they are going to hurt on X day at Y time, kwim? And for those that get into it for the profits promised by the for profit schools, money doesn't materialize if you're not there when opportunity knocks, no matter how awesome your skills might be.

Of course I say this as someone who is doing chair massage exclusively right now and would just about die for the chance to work in a studio and be available when life brings clients her way. So I may be off base for the profession at large.
 
Get your Butt to the Office!

I'm pretty much at the shop 40 hours a week, give or take a few. When I left last night, I had one eyebrow wax today. Before she came in, a several-times-a-year client happened to walk in, delighted to find me with a half hour available. When I got done the wax, I'd had a facial booked right after. When I got done that one, another regular had called for an hour massage and when I got done with *that* one, I had another facial booked! What looked like a looong, slow day at 10 am turned out to be nonstop.

I will say though, that there are days when I duck out for a couple of hours, maybe because it has been a slow morning, when I need to do stuff. Sometimes that 'stuff' is simply marketing myself. And one of the reasons I love being an IC is the ability to do that occasionally. Plus, if someone does call for an immediate appointment or walks in, it gives the two new girls a chance to get someone on their table. I'm all for helping out the others, including handing off a new client if I just want to get out a little earlier than usual. The flexibility is a great bonus. But I still tend to want to be there more often than not.
 
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That is definitely the way to handle it. The walk in potental varies from location to location...and can certainly be enhanced...but not planning for it is a terrible idea. I'm always glad to hear someone spent 8 hours without an appointment...while it sucks for that day, those hours put in serious dividends!
 
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mkat321 said:
I don't understand the mind set of not being available just because no one booked in advance.

I think this also shows a lack of understanding of the basics of the business. Most spas -- as opposed to individual practices or medical based services -- have a significant walk-in or short-notice clientele.

The hotel in-room business is the definition of this, with hotel spas not far behind. Even our location in our hometown can do 20 - 25% walk-ins or "pop on overs" (it is not more than 10 to 15 minutes to the spa from most client's homes, vs. 30+ for most of our staff)
 
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Who has time to sit around? I schedule myself pretty full, so I rarely have a "tomorrow" let alone a "today" that's not already scheduledโ€”if not with clients, then other things. So same-day appointments rarely work for me. It becomes one more matter of client education. It is fun when it works out, though... every once in a while a new client contacts me on a day that has a lot of green time.

Of course this would be a different matter with a storefront.
 
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True! Outcall is a different beast. but we're a boutique massage center, which DOES get walk in. Sadly, so often I see places that would if only they were there.
 
Get your Butt to the Office!

What to do??
I have to wonder though, how long would any of you continue to show up, day after day, hour after hour, and only see a decline?
I'm feeling.. well...at the loss for the last month....
A bit of backstory - I've been at this salon/spa since Nov. 1. There was no massage clientele to speak of (but 3 years of records in the MT room), and because I'm not one to sit around twiddling... I started sending out postcards with 20% off to those old clients.
Then I started a salon/spa newsletter.(cross-promo svc etc.).. and posted on Facebook for the biz. Now I even keep up the email database for the place.
All while setting my chair at the front of the house. some days I get a massage of two. some days they look at me like a stalker when I try to hand them my biz card.
The biz owner tried groupon and "circle of service" discount booklets to get new clients too.
I've survived on discounted massages for months now, and I've cherished having every experience as a newish MT.
But folks, the air is gone from my balloon.

I've had 3 walk-ins in 7 mos. This week I've had no clients on my books until 1 on Sat.
I'm not griping here, (at least I hope I don't sound like it) I want to know from the more experienced. Is this just my perception and I need to keep finding other ways at the same place???

I saw "That's the Rub's" Advert on Craigslist a week or so ago.... Should I go work for him? (and NO I'm not joking) (and no, I haven't even sent my resume yet)
 
Get your Butt to the Office!

It's sounds like you are doing the right things, but it sounds like you are in a horrible location, get out soon! we are booked up at least a week in advance for most appointments after 3pm till 8pm and usually for two to three weeks for 5 to 8pm.

We have between 35 and 55 new pt's each month in our 3 rm clinic with only 2 rms going most times.
I would say we normally get at least 2 to 3 hrs of calls for walk in/same day.
 
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HappyMedium said:
What to do??
I have to wonder though, how long would any of you continue to show up, day after day, hour after hour, and only see a decline?
I'm feeling.. well...at the loss for the last month....
A bit of backstory - I've been at this salon/spa since Nov. 1. There was no massage clientele to speak of (but 3 years of records in the MT room), and because I'm not one to sit around twiddling... I started sending out postcards with 20% off to those old clients.
Then I started a salon/spa newsletter.(cross-promo svc etc.).. and posted on Facebook for the biz. Now I even keep up the email database for the place.
All while setting my chair at the front of the house. some days I get a massage of two. some days they look at me like a stalker when I try to hand them my biz card.
The biz owner tried groupon and "circle of service" discount booklets to get new clients too.
I've survived on discounted massages for months now, and I've cherished having every experience as a newish MT.
But folks, the air is gone from my balloon.

I've had 3 walk-ins in 7 mos. This week I've had no clients on my books until 1 on Sat.
I'm not griping here, (at least I hope I don't sound like it) I want to know from the more experienced. Is this just my perception and I need to keep finding other ways at the same place???

I saw "That's the Rub's" Advert on Craigslist a week or so ago.... Should I go work for him? (and NO I'm not joking) (and no, I haven't even sent my resume yet)

If I were you, I'd be rushing to polish my resume and apply to work for him. His business is growing and he knows the therapist's side of things. Those are two strong positives! At least go check out the business so you know what you're up against.
 
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  30. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Malaysian ๐ŸŒนGermany ๐ŸŒนIndian ๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  31. DareDevil:
    272 ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILLโ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Ellagant Ella, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY ARE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ Ella๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ
  32. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธChelsea๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  33. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  35. Spa in Markham:
  36. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia๏ผŒyoung girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  37. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts Linda , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  38. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  39. Pink Flower Spa:
  40. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big boob Joey ,amazing massage, starting to ending,really popular girl,must try๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ‘
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Taiwanese Victoria 25โ€™s slime open mind and young flirty Tina with sexy body open mind 30โ€™s,young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and Cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸฅฐA stunning new Korean massage girl with a captivating presence, long silky brown hair cascading down her back, and a petite, elegant figure that exudes charm. Her warm touch and intuitive skills promise a deeply relaxing
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
  45. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: JOJO: is a busty JAPANESE girl, nice DD Cup boobs, short, petite small body, pretty face AV S2tar, bbbj cim cof rim, special services available. LUCKY (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D
  46. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Vicky 22, Philippine mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Young girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Jessica Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along with. Sasa friendly Vietnamese Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Sami Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Sexy Akino and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILLโ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Ellagant Ella, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY ARE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ Ella๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ
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