Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

I would suggest forgetting the tantric side of things, for a very good reason, males are very visual and tactile creatures, they don't want some chick huffing and puffing & not letting them be touched, and telling them how to breathe & being told it's not about the orgasm... With males it's ALL about the orgasm.
But if can learn proper SM then it's another string for your bow.
Good luck with it.
ps: have you ever had a genuine SM?
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

What I am thinking of doing, is learning the art of (tantric and sensual) massage, then offer a R&T/Tantric/SM type booking, as well as continue my full service bookings etc.. What do you think?[/QUOTE]

I worked in Sensaul erotic massage before finding my home at FUNHOUSE. I find it works in beautifully in Fullservice bookings at times. Body slides and some light, feathery stokes in important erroginous areas can be a lovely way to get the heart racing. Would recommend using Rice-bran oil as opposed to baby oil though. Its Much better for the skin and you caln add other essential oils like Lavender to enhance the experience. It is also great for your body confindence!!!

Alot of the clients I met whilst doing SM said that if they where Married, they did not experience the same guilt issues with SM as they did with FS. In their mind... they can put it in a wee box that allows them to process it as a 'massage'... thus its not cheating for them.... Go figure
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

That has nothing to do with it, for me at least, I have seen a few ladies that offer FS as well as SM. When done correctly a SM can be an incredibly intense sexual experience, it's the anticipation/build up and subsequent release that is the main attraction.. for me at least.



I get an R&T because I have an itch that needs scratching :) there are exceptions of course



Yep.... like I said I dont not do FS for personal reasons, not because I think the lady has somehow been 'spoiled'. How ever in my experience FS ladies give pretty awful sensual massages



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Just as an aside there is a big difference between a sensual massage and a R&T, and the FS girls I have seen that offer massages are generally more the latter



A good tantric massage without all the spiritual/non release stuff can be amazing. Agree that it, just like any other massage, dosent work without a mutual physical connection and touching
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

ONE: Is the attraction to a R&T the fact the lady (usually) isn't involved in full service, or something else?


I have a need for really substantial effort to get off so a hand job done well is my perfect sexual relaxation.


TWO: Do you participate in a R&T as a way of satisfying your want/need for intimacy/companionship/an orgasm/etc etc, without being involved in full service, or another reason?


For me same answer as question1.


THREE: If a full service working lady were to also offer a R&T service, at a lower rate than her full service rate, would you consider her also?


Yes, and I have had full service ladies before the whole R&T business wound up to high gear do that for me anyway at their regular rates.


FOUR: If not, is that because she participates in full service, or because you'd be tempted to try her full service, or something else?


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Does this help? You can R&T me anytime.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Plenty of the girls will do it for girls. You should book with one who says they are bi and go for it. Oh and ask around, there's one client who gives great massages and you can learn Reviewom him LOL Book me, book me :-) Oh and if you PM me and tell me what you like in a girl I can recommend a couple of great gals to try.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Hey elevate, nice reply BTW, but isn't that the whole idea of a tantric massage, to connect each other spiritually, and not to focus on the orgasm?
A massive part of tantric is breathing, without it there is nothing. You have to learn to control your breathing so you can ultimately have an orgasm without ejaculation, which goes totally against the male thinking.
Anyway that's another subject.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Tantra has a real place, its a great thing to explore, for your own personal sexual journey or as a couple, it has great sexual healing, for those women who have been abused or who have sexual hangups for one reason or another. For men, its great for erection dysfunction for all types of reasons, mainly prostrate cancer recovery, when you remove the orgaism, and focus is on your entire body just being touched softly gently in a intimate enviroment the pressure of having to have an orgasm is removed and you just explore the pleasure of touch, it is truly lovely. you can then move on and learn breathing techniques to help control and strengthen or heighten or orgasm, and then you have goddess worshipping ect ect...its all very deep, and possibly a wee bit more then someone just wanting to pay for services for a short period of time. The best senual massage girls, incorporate a little bit of tantra, by using touch, oils and enviroment, they use your sexual energy, they use good swedish style massage to help you relax, done right, it is a very erotic experience, you should leave feeling invigorated pampered and your entire body destressed. And thats the key, sensual massage is about your entire body, you get touched everywhere, and sensual massage therapist will touch and arouse you in places you didnt know existed. Its intimate in a raw sense, in a natural process, rather then a relationship type of intimacy. the power of touch is highly undervalued, and when you use touch in a sensual setting it is a powerful enlightening experience.....
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

personally I would in future only go for RnT/SM over FS.
Tried FS and I am no good at it and consider it a waste of money :(
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Maybe if no action mpter twenty five minute they can hand off to the resident expert and blow in his ear / neck / elbow
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

I am in the same boat as you, the only satisfaction I get Reviewom FS is yah I had a shag.
A big part of the problem I guess is in my head, (the one on my shoulders) as I get too focused and have a hair trigger, so in all reality I only need 5 minutes, and that includes getting undressed.
But with SM, even with a new girl, she more often than not, has to crank my handle for ages.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

I do not enjoy a R&T. The rub is great, but I can not just lie there (for the Tug) while someone does all the work.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

The most erotic experiences in my life have been with a "Rub and Tug" girl. That has been intimated before in this thread and it was Jade, formerly of TR. The pleasure of just lying there, whilst an absolutely gorgeous girl gets off on you, plus your inevitable climax is beyond compare.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Yep it is and it's important to keep aspects of that. I don't mind the whole breathing thing, infact it can be very arousing. I was more talking about the staring at each other and reciting a mantra etc.

Just saying in my personal experience, a tantric style massage with mutual touching and relief can be amazing (To be fair I have had more duds then successes, however you cant really go wrong with anyone who trained at the blue lotus )

I don't know if you ever saw Amber but she did an incredible tantra style massage which easily sits in my top 2 in terms of sexually intense experiences.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

i need to be involved in me service, just lying backa nd relaxing just ends up with me being really relaxed and sleeping, and i have not been finished via the Tug as the result for a long long time. Tantric is fine but all it does is make me sleepy. Been kicked out once not getting hard and/or implied i was gay hahahaa.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Really? All the tantra massages I've had have been hands off below the waist. And to tell you the truth, with a cpl of the 'goddesses' that was as far as I wanted my hands to go if u get my drift.
No never seen her or been to Blue Lotus. Only been to the disbanded o 8 00 tantra, harmony, and the tantra club place.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

1, The attraction for me is the sensual soft touch, and can vary a lot between girls.
2,I participate for the erotic sexual feeling I get during the massage, yes I get my needs satisfied by a hot woman which adds to the experience.
3,FS or RnT yes either one if the massage is up to standard. Have had a few RnT's where there is Daty allowed, and a couple of times the massage has ended in FS.
4,In my experience in the many RnT's I have had and a couple of FS bookings. The best outcome would be a real GFE (erotic RnT with a FS ending).
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

ONE: R&T for me is about passively lying back and enjoying being pampered. I enjoy a good massage - and any teasing is nice too. An orgasm at the end isn't my main goal, but it is a very nice way to finish.

TWO: I've never done full service, but R&T seems okay. I probably stick to R&T because I guess part of me wants to reserve sex for those I care about. That said, am single now and always tempted.

THREE: Have visited one FS girl who offered R&T at a lower rate. Really enjoyed it (She was pretty decent at massage). Wasn't tempted to 'upgrade' to FS though.

FOUR: (redundant question as I have seen someone who offered FS purely for R&T)

I'm actually happiest getting a massage Reviewom someone who is very good at massage and offers HR as an extra at the end. I'm not fussy about looks and I don't really want to touch, preferring to remain passive.
Think I'm perhaps too concerned about intruding on someone else's boundaries. I do love to touch, but don't want to go somewhere I'm not wanted.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  33. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena Vietnamese Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446
  34. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Fun Girl Apple, New Pretty Girl Angela, RMT Grace, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ GRACE AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Nancy, Tina and Kitty will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  36. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Nancy, Tina and Kitty will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  37. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Sunday June 1, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿค—, Christina ๐Ÿ˜, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿคฉ and Lucy ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCandy๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyda,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very beautiful face,open maid,amazing touch,happy the end,give you warm and comfortable time,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Saturday๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Cici, Yoyo, Amber, Juliet, GFE Eva,Echo,๐Ÿ†•Julia, Lucy, Akino & Jennyโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - Your Black Friday Bliss is Here!๐Ÿ™Œ
  42. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl angel very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  43. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  44. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  45. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  46. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NEW ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NEW LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  47. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  48. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] Alice spa has 3 attractive honeys today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (12pm-9pm) is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA (10am-9pm)
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cherry Sara & Tracy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Cherry is slim and very beautiful, can deliver a great service experience. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mix
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
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