Complementary and Natural Healthcare Council launch

I think the FHT alone has almost 20,000 complementary therapy members, and I think CThA has half that number at least, maybe more, so no, definitely not including CAM practitioners in the figures I quoted (I think there are 7,000).

Out of the members im sure it is a majority, but I wouldnt know the exact figure. We only know if someone is eligible or not, when they apply.
 
This is the big issue. What are the PA's doing to push the CNHC. Why aren't they contacting or even sending out a blanket emails to their Sports Therapies members really promoting the CNHC?

Remember that every year, the SST get hundreds of Students signing up to them. Not all make it, but I would think that a significant number go onto full membership. That happens every year. It has been highly conspicuous that the SST have not really made any statements apart from their initial one regarding voluntary registration. I suspect this is because they don't see the SRTC or vol regs as much of a threat?

At the moment the SST hold all the cards, FA, RFU etc recognition, Universities and lots of very high profile people involved in the Sports Medicine world.

I think that the PA's of the SRTC need to pull their weight a bit more and get their members applying to the CNHC. AND, like it or not the SRTC needs to start getting stuck into the Uni students. With out them and the clout and sheer numbers that they bring to the table, I think the SRTC will be dead in the water. That is the harsh reality of it. The SRTC needs to be offering these students (who can ultimately win the battle for them) something that the SST cannot. If the SRTC starts winning them over then it will force the SST to sit at the table with them.
 
Hi Aspire,
if you have a surefire way of getting contact with the uni students then let me know

As for recognition, I wouldnt believe the hype...ive worked in the sports therapy industry for long enough to know what is hype and what is fact, and there is a lot of clever marketing and spin done......

I honestly think you are making too big an issue of the universities, look on the sports therapy forums, and you will see how successful people are. Ive said many times on here, there are more diplomates working in top level sports than uni grads, because most of them have the benefit of experience, which is was is required, and the uni courses have been here for less than 10 years.

Most of the STs that I know are very happy with their work, their earnings and their success, and most of them have no interest in working in professional sport.
 
Hi ST,

As for recognition, I wouldnt believe the hype...ive worked in the sports therapy industry for long enough to know what is hype and what is fact, and there is a lot of clever marketing and spin done......

I am just going on the calibre and experience of speakers that the SST have at their annual conference. Another example is on the England RFU site they recommend to clubs that if they take a sports therapist on their staff that they are Graduate members of the SST.

I honestly think you are making too big an issue of the universities, look on the sports therapy forums, and you will see how successful people are. Ive said many times on here, there are more diplomates working in top level sports than uni grads, because most of them have the benefit of experience, which is was is required, and the uni courses have been here for less than 10 years.

I have to disagree on this even though I know you have been in the business for a long time. I am sure that there are lots of Sports Massage Practitioners working in elite sports and in team sports. However I would like to know how many top sports men and women and teams employ diplomate sports therapists. My research has indicated that the are mostly Chartered Sports Physiotherapists or Graduate Sports Therapists

if you have a surefire way of getting contact with the uni students then let me know

I would probably approach the course leaders to get a feel for opinions, there maybe a lot of discontent with the way things are progressing (or not) with Stat regs. Sure they will have ties to the SST and you will get the door slammed in the face but you will always find at least a couple of allies.

Organise an event directed at the students. They are probably getting all their information at the moment about the SRTC and CNHC from very biased and negative sources. Why not give them the opportunity to find out first hand and let them know that there is an alternative. Get industry suppliers along maybe a few freebies thrown in. If you cant advertise through the ST departments then do it through the student unions, face book, twitter. Just got to find a way in.
 
im not being flippant, just dont wholly agree with your first two points, and its good that you actually take an interest.

If you do belong to a PA, and any at that, you should contact them with ideas, they want people to get involved. At the end of the day that is partly what you pay your membership fees for.
 
Dan,
you spend so much time telling us we are not doing our job properly, remember this, we work full time in the industry, we do the council work voluntarily. I have a large family and 2 businesses to run. Why dont you spend some of the time spent researching doing something positive and send your CV to SRTC and apply for a role. you could start by contacting all the sporting bodies and asking them why they are so determined to have SST graduates.
I can tell you for a fact that to work in RFU it is a minimum of PHysio degree, the FA have been a closed shop for decades running their own injury management course at level 3 at Lilleshall which you cant do until you have their level 1 and 2 but they dont now run them at local FA level due to funding issues. First4sport run a lot of their courses now
We cannot publish everything we are doing, there is lots happening behind the scenes. you can be part of it if you want .... just ask
 
Reading the paragraph above...what is the point?

Gary I wish you and Richard all the best in progressing the profession.
 
exactly, you want the work but not willing to put any effort in to get it.
these are the things we are addressing, just because we dont publish everything we do, you seem to think we sit around twiddling thumbs.
 
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its good to see that what has turned into a controversial subject is continuing to get government support, and CAM is progressing as something that is becoming more recognised.

Here is a press release from the Department of Health

โ€œOver the last two years the CNHC has clearly done a lot to set standards for a range of complementary healthcare disciplines and the Department welcomes its continued good work. The CNHC is sponsored by the Department and we recommend that where people are looking for complementary healthcare practitioners, they use someone who is CNHC-registered.โ€ (Department of Health, January 2011)
 
The January press release doesn't get a mention on the DOH website - yet - has it been released to selected addressees ahead of posting on their site? The last mention of CNHC was in October.
 
I recieved mine too from CNHC, pleased to see that the new government support this.
 
I got mine also, pleased with the level of support and progress but I believe it is not important what I think or do as there will always be those on here who will be happy to belittle the work CNHC do and choose not to register.
horses for courses
 
Started the process of joining CNHC today...

Am joining FHT and then will apply for GNHC once that has all gone through..
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCandy๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyda,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very beautiful face,open maid,amazing touch,happy the end,give you warm and comfortable time,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Saturday๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Cici, Yoyo, Amber, Juliet, GFE Eva,Echo,๐Ÿ†•Julia, Lucy, Akino & Jennyโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - Your Black Friday Bliss is Here!๐Ÿ™Œ
  42. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl angel very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  43. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  44. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  45. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  46. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NEW ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NEW LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  47. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  48. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] Alice spa has 3 attractive honeys today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (12pm-9pm) is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA (10am-9pm)
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cherry Sara & Tracy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Cherry is slim and very beautiful, can deliver a great service experience. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mix
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
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