Black Privilege


Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to this, and I'll be honest, I gave only gave it a quick listen when you first posted it and I may have forgotten some of the points they made, but I think I recall enough to comment.

Before I do though, can I just point out that you've just shared a video by two guys who repeat over and over that (though they disagree with his conclusions), recognize that Shapiro treats the data fairly and does not misrepresent it? I mean, you called the guy a retard and worse, and then you've shared a video by two fellas who actually note his fairness. Anyway....

I listened with an open mind, and I still think the argument Shapiro is making is the far stronger of the two. As I stated earlier in the thread, if you look at historical and current data, you must explain why the black community has in many respects actually regressed by some very important measures, such as home ownership, incarceration rates and single family homes. IF what they are saying is true and systemic racism is to blame for the plight of black communities, then tell me why the black community was actually doing better in the past in many important ways. Is it your argument that the U.S. has become MORE racist?

At the same time, explain why it is that racism is so disproportionately affecting a very specific group--black americans whose families have been here for generations. If you look at recent immigrant blacks, especially from Africa, they do far better economically than the aforementioned group. WHY??? Does racism not affect them? Comparisons to other groups are even more telling. Surely Indian and Asian immigrants also receive some level of racism right? Why do those groups actually outperform white americans?

Any serious analysis of the systemic racism argument has to consider a multitude of factors. That isn't to say racism doesn't exist. Of course it does. But the argument these two make (which is the predominant argument one hears everywhere) is that ALL disparities between whites and and black can be explained by systemic racism. I'm sorry, but that is simply not true. All of the data points to a far more probable truth. In the U.S., regardless of your colour, if you graduate high school and get a full time job before you get married and have kids, you will probably be ok. In other words, racism is not the factor that's holding back the black population, personal life choices are. The sooner that's acknowledged and dealt with, the sooner things will start to improve.

I make an effort to listen to both sides. Most people I know who do the same, tend to stay quiet about these subjects because they agree with me...but are simply too scared to utter their opinion in mixed company.
 
Black folk stuck in da same perpetual cycle. Dey wanna blame tha government and systematic racism on everythang yet we be bustin our gun at each other n doin all the wrong things most of the time. As a blk man even I can admit we do a lotta dumb shit we shouldnt be doin. Eventually we gotta take accountability as a community for why we iaint getinn ahead and make a change but until we decide to do a 180 nothin gon change. I admit I'm ignant n do ignant shit and I'm ok wid it. Lotta black folk dont wanna admit when they bein ignorant n blame everyone but themselve for bein tht way. of course where ya born n how u raised hav to do wid it too but when u a grown man the choices u make is ur decision tht u alone make. it aint no one else but ya own fault if u make da wrong one. Like that dumb nigga in Atlanta runnin from police n stealin tha taser and gettin shot. thts his own fukin fault. if niggas dont wanna comply n do the opposite how tf u gon be surprised when u get beat up or shot dummy? a majority of these cases of cops shootin niggas is cause niggas dont fkin comply. there be cases of where some cops really do shoot for no reason but they only a small amount. most of these niggas invite theyselves to get their ass beat or shot.
 
Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to this, and I'll be honest, I gave only gave it a quick listen when you first posted it and I may have forgotten some of the points they made, but I think I recall enough to comment.

Before I do though, can I just point out that you've just shared a video by two guys who repeat over and over that (though they disagree with his conclusions), recognize that Shapiro treats the data fairly and does not misrepresent it? I mean, you called the guy a retard and worse, and then you've shared a video by two fellas who actually note his fairness. Anyway....

I listened with an open mind, and I still think the argument Shapiro is making is the far stronger of the two. As I stated earlier in the thread, if you look at historical and current data, you must explain why the black community has in many respects actually regressed by some very important measures, such as home ownership, incarceration rates and single family homes. IF what they are saying is true and systemic racism is to blame for the plight of black communities, then tell me why the black community was actually doing better in the past in many important ways. Is it your argument that the U.S. has become MORE racist?

At the same time, explain why it is that racism is so disproportionately affecting a very specific group--black americans whose families have been here for generations. If you look at recent immigrant blacks, especially from Africa, they do far better economically than the aforementioned group. WHY??? Does racism not affect them? Comparisons to other groups are even more telling. Surely Indian and Asian immigrants also receive some level of racism right? Why do those groups actually outperform white americans?

Any serious analysis of the systemic racism argument has to consider a multitude of factors. That isn't to say racism doesn't exist. Of course it does. But the argument these two make (which is the predominant argument one hears everywhere) is that ALL disparities between whites and and black can be explained by systemic racism. I'm sorry, but that is simply not true. All of the data points to a far more probable truth. In the U.S., regardless of your colour, if you graduate high school and get a full time job before you get married and have kids, you will probably be ok. In other words, racism is not the factor that's holding back the black population, personal life choices are. The sooner that's acknowledged and dealt with, the sooner things will start to improve.

I make an effort to listen to both sides. Most people I know who do the same, tend to stay quiet about these subjects because they agree with me...but are simply too scared to utter their opinion in mixed company.
I’m not going to respond when I have time. I don’t think you’re coming from a bad place.
 
Black folk stuck in da same perpetual cycle. Dey wanna blame tha government and systematic racism on everythang yet we be bustin our gun at each other n doin all the wrong things most of the time. As a blk man even I can admit we do a lotta dumb shit we shouldnt be doin. Eventually we gotta take accountability as a community for why we iaint getinn ahead and make a change but until we decide to do a 180 nothin gon change. I admit I'm ignant n do ignant shit and I'm ok wid it. Lotta black folk dont wanna admit when they bein ignorant n blame everyone but themselve for bein tht way. of course where ya born n how u raised hav to do wid it too but when u a grown man the choices u make is ur decision tht u alone make. it aint no one else but ya own fault if u make da wrong one. Like that dumb nigga in Atlanta runnin from police n stealin tha taser and gettin shot. thts his own fukin fault. if niggas dont wanna comply n do the opposite how tf u gon be surprised when u get beat up or shot dummy? a majority of these cases of cops shootin niggas is cause niggas dont fkin comply. there be cases of where some cops really do shoot for no reason but they only a small amount. most of these niggas invite theyselves to get their ass beat or shot.
Wow dude wow.
 
Black folk stuck in da same perpetual cycle. Dey wanna blame tha government and systematic racism on everythang yet we be bustin our gun at each other n doin all the wrong things most of the time. As a blk man even I can admit we do a lotta dumb shit we shouldnt be doin. Eventually we gotta take accountability as a community for why we iaint getinn ahead and make a change but until we decide to do a 180 nothin gon change. I admit I'm ignant n do ignant shit and I'm ok wid it. Lotta black folk dont wanna admit when they bein ignorant n blame everyone but themselve for bein tht way. of course where ya born n how u raised hav to do wid it too but when u a grown man the choices u make is ur decision tht u alone make. it aint no one else but ya own fault if u make da wrong one. Like that dumb nigga in Atlanta runnin from police n stealin tha taser and gettin shot. thts his own fukin fault. if niggas dont wanna comply n do the opposite how tf u gon be surprised when u get beat up or shot dummy? a majority of these cases of cops shootin niggas is cause niggas dont fkin comply. there be cases of where some cops really do shoot for no reason but they only a small amount. most of these niggas invite theyselves to get their ass beat or shot.
I read this as an honest appraisal of what most thinking people have felt for years. Kudos to you Dick.

- certainly there is racism, predominately the subtle, "elephant in the room " type against races of colour by whites.
- there is open vile racism that exists and that is totally unacceptable.
- there is also the complete reversal of that, I have experienced it personally, not whining, just stating the fact.
- there is racism between different races of colour and between other races. i.e. asian

That being said, the reality that Dick posted is what is the real situation is. If the black community would come to grips with the issues in their own families and deal with them the problems of gang shootings, anti social behaviour, etc. that we see recurring would start to fade. I feel for the hard working, ambitious and aspiring and successful people of colour when they are not appreciated for their efforts.
Working in an industry that historically has moved toward talent from multiple cultures, I get the opportunity to meet and work with some great people of all races.
If the people like DickSlinger would convince themselves to learn to converse with more conventional language, spoken and written, they would be seen as people that want to be treated as equal participants in society by those they say want to keep them suppressed. They have the ability, I hope they find the will.
 
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I read this as an honest appraisal of what most thinking people have felt for years. Kudos to you Dick.

- certainly there is racism, predominately the subtle, "elephant in the room " type against races of colour by whites.
- there is open vile racism that exists and that is totally unacceptable.
- there is also the complete reversal of that, I have experienced it personally, not whining, just stating the fact.
- there is racism between different races of colour and between other races. i.e. asian

That being said, the reality that Dick posted is what is the real situation is. If the black community would come to grips with the issues in their own families and deal with them the problems of gang shootings, anti social behaviour, etc. that we see recurring would start to fade. I feel for the hard working, ambitious and aspiring and successful people of colour when they are not appreciated for their efforts.
Working in an industry that historically has moved toward talent from multiple cultures, I get the opportunity to meet and work with some great people of all races.
If the people like DickSlinger would convince themselves to learn to converse with more conventional language, spoken and written, they would be seen as people that want to be treated as equal participants in society by those they say want to keep them suppressed. They have the ability, I hope they find the will.
There ain't enough attention on black folk that are in roles that don't fit the stereotypical mold of what a nigga is in the eyes of Western Society. All we niggas in the hood got to look up to are Ball players, dope boys and rappers/entertainers. Them the only 3 avenues we see as ways out the hood. All dat other shit like trades n all that we don't even consider cause our culture don't see it as cool. N our community so sick that if it ain't cool we don't wanna do it. White America also only shows us on TV n shit fitting into one of those 3 roles. when we had Obama in office it was good cause it show niggas we can be more than just ball players. We could be tha president n other things. Now with all dis PC bullshit it doin nothin but encouraging niggas to be niggas and sayin it ok for us to do all dis shit. Shit is counter productive and i hate that shit. PRoblem is too many niggas and these white apologist be out here stuck in da matrix and not seein tha truth. PC be hurtin niggas more than helpin'em...
 
There ain't enough attention on black folk that are in roles that don't fit the stereotypical mold of what a nigga is in the eyes of Western Society. All we niggas in the hood got to look up to are Ball players, dope boys and rappers/entertainers. Them the only 3 avenues we see as ways out the hood. All dat other shit like trades n all that we don't even consider cause our culture don't see it as cool. N our community so sick that if it ain't cool we don't wanna do it. White America also only shows us on TV n shit fitting into one of those 3 roles. when we had Obama in office it was good cause it show niggas we can be more than just ball players. We could be tha president n other things. Now with all dis PC bullshit it doin nothin but encouraging niggas to be niggas and sayin it ok for us to do all dis shit. Shit is counter productive and i hate that shit. PRoblem is too many niggas and these white apologist be out here stuck in da matrix and not seein tha truth. PC be hurtin niggas more than helpin'em...
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There ain't enough attention on black folk that are in roles that don't fit the stereotypical mold of what a nigga is in the eyes of Western Society. All we niggas in the hood got to look up to are Ball players, dope boys and rappers/entertainers. Them the only 3 avenues we see as ways out the hood. All dat other shit like trades n all that we don't even consider cause our culture don't see it as cool. N our community so sick that if it ain't cool we don't wanna do it. White America also only shows us on TV n shit fitting into one of those 3 roles. when we had Obama in office it was good cause it show niggas we can be more than just ball players. We could be tha president n other things. Now with all dis PC bullshit it doin nothin but encouraging niggas to be niggas and sayin it ok for us to do all dis shit. Shit is counter productive and i hate that shit. PRoblem is too many niggas and these white apologist be out here stuck in da matrix and not seein tha truth. PC be hurtin niggas more than helpin'em...
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I am black man and I think BLM has no credibility. If they truly care about black life’s and not publicities, there would be anger when blacks are gun down by their own.

More of us are killed by own than police. Yes police should be held accountable as everyone for their actions.


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  45. Annie Spa:
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  46. EMSpa_schedule:
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  48. HolidaySpa:
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  50. すみません:
    Top notch line up with superstars like sunny , gabby , elena , kiki , Ella and cindy. At top notch wellness
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