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GrateLakes said:
I still want to try tiger balm. I dont think I will try the red tiger balm, but rather the white. The red has cinammon in it, and sometimes I will break out in a rash from cinammon.

They also have a Sports Rub which is pretty good too, it's stronger than the white but milder than the red. I don't like the red as it also can stain sheets and clothing.

Actually, next to Sombra and Biofreeze, Tiger Balm is darn right cheap!

Acutally, I think if you compare ounce to ounce you will find out that TB is actually more expensive. The containers that it comes in are tiny! With Sombra and Biofreeze you are getting much more product per container.

Are there any other fairly popular topical analgesics out there worth checking out?

We also sell Cryoderm (similar to Biofreeze but stronger and a more liquid consistency so it doesn't get "gunky" but it's a little too strong for me....broke me out in a rash but I have a friend who loves it and uses it all the time) Jason's Tea Tree Icy Gel (a favorite of mine) Polar Lotion, Prossage, Recovery Rub and Ahhhhloe.

When clients want to know what works best, we simply tell them that different things work better for different people and to try a few of them to see what works best for them.

Me.....I'm a Biofreeze junkie....I never leave home without my roll-on in my purse.

:smt023

Angie
 


I have to agree with Angie, I have a preference for Biofreeze. I retail it and do wonderfully with it,selling almost 20+ bottles a month. I have tried Sombra,and like it too. But as far as cost is concerned,BF is the best-valued analgesic I have used in a while. Prossage is wonderful stuff too for trigger point tx. I am an avid user of the stuff.TB burns me,and not too many of my clients like the residual smell.

Namaste'
Johnny
 


I love the thought behind sombra, and Jeff has been great about getting samples out... My problem is it is overly stron scented, I sneeze with citrus smelling products... and to me it is very overpowering.

I personally use biofreeze, they give out a ton of samples which I give out to clients...
 


"Active ingredient" is just a legally defined term that means a substance has been listed in the pharmacopia and has been recognized in an official governed way as doing specific things. Camphor and menthol have been listed in this way for many decades; most plant substances are not, even ones we clearly know have effects, like capsicum/capsaicin.

Ilex (in this case probably ilex paraguensis, or yerba mate) is not on this list, so although it indeed does have effects (mainly stimulation of the nervous system and enhancement of the effects of other herbs), listing it as "inactive" is just jumping through the correct FDA hoop. This happens with herbal teas all the time too, where all the ingredients have some well-known traditional benefits, but only mint is listed as "active."

It's related to that sentence herb merchants put on all their products when naming the benefits -- "This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA." It's a way for herbal products to still be available to the public while letting herbal manufacturers set standards internally. Saves the taxpayers money, and consumers can still get their hands on herbal formulations if we choose to.
 


I use a product called nature's gel. The active ingredients are cayenne pepper, eucalyptus and aloe vera. No plastic fillers in the product. Makes it a more natural product. Comes in a couple different size containers as wells. I like the results of this product better than the others. No greasy residue left behind either.
 


I got a massage last week (yay me!) and the therapist used "Lasting Touch" on my sore arm. I don't like analgesics in general (the menthol-ish smell doesn't appeal to me, and I'm not crazy about the tingling) but this was fairly nice, not as strong smelling as tiger balm or biofreeze. It has good stuff in it, too, like arnica and glucosamine. I've seen it in Whole Foods for sale. I found their website:
http://lasting-touch.com/analgesicgel/index.htm
 


I am a huge "Sombra-ite". I love the stuff, the smell and the way it works in general. So, I am not much help.

But that Jason's Tea Tree Icy Gel (fav of moogie's) sounds like something I might also like to try. Cold isn't really my thing, but it get's pretty hot in the summer around here, so it makes sense to check it out.

Nice thread.

I think we have an old thread discussing the whole "ilex" thing. I'll see if I can find it and add the link to this post. --- yep, found it, Biofreeze --- it's a pretty resourceful thread for anagesics too, I think.
 


I found a very reasonable source for sombra, even better pricing than biofreeze.

http://www.healthproductsdirect.com/sombra.html

Their shipping is very reasonable. I was comparing them to MW. MW has some high shiping prices! :shock:

OH YEAH!!

What do you retail your biofreeze or sombra for? Dont forget to let us know the sizes of your containers.
 


GrateLakes said:
Pueppi,

Have you tried the new Sombra? They beefed up their line. The old stuff is now called "warm therapy," while the new line is called "cool therapy."

Reading the labels, I would say the main difference is that the warm therapy has menthol, camphor, and capsasin, while the cool therapy only has menthol.

I dont feel anything warm about the warm therapy actually. They pretty much both feel the same to me, except the cool therapy seems to feel quite a bit cooler than the warm therapy feels cool. If that makes sense.... I dont get the warm therapy actually. To me, it doesnt feel warm at all.

Biofreeze doesnt have any camphor or capsasin in it, so I am thinking Sombra's new cool therapy is more or less like plain ole biofreeze. except it has a slight lemon scent. This may win over a few biofreezites.

I haven't tried the "cool" one. I only use the warm one. Part of the reason they call it warm, from what I can tell is that once it is on, if you go out in the heat or start working - it warms up the region rather nicely, But, I am south of the Mason Dixon, so it gets pretty warm down here. Maybe in colder weather you don't get that effect. I know that I don't use the warm sombra in the winter down here, because it basically just makes the client cold when they walk out my door and to their vehicle.

Prossage has a pretty warm one / but I don't find it gives much in the way of relief like sombra. Probably just a personal preference. But, you might consider something like that for the cold months.

I doubt I'll go with the cool therapy at any time, just because I have found such awesome results with the regular sombra and currently there is "no need to change a winning team" as someone I love dearly always says.
 


I like Sombra a lot, too, and the customer service is top notch. Like pueppi, I have not tried the cool therapy, but the regular Sombra feels great- nice and warm- at least after the initial cool feeling, but that could just be the climate here.

But, I am also a huge fan of Arnica. There are several brands, but the only one I have used is called Arniflora. The ingredients are arnica and witch hazel- that's it. I find it to be great for releaving that difuse shoulder and neck pain.
 


That's funny palpable, I have a tube of Arniflora too. It is the only arnica I have used and it is great.

Thanks for mentioning that one - I forgot about that and I give it a thumbs up like you! :)
 


I have tried both, Sombra and Biofreeze. I have clients that like one or the other so I keep both on hand. I found a supply store online that has both, but sombra is better priced. it is nice, because they will send a mixed case, 4 of each size of Sombra, 4oz, 8 oz, and 3 oz roll on.

I don't know if I can list a website her, so if it is inapropriate please let me know and I will remove it. http://www.themassageclinic.com
 


My massage therapist friend turned me onto Aveda Active Composition, http://aveda.com/templates/products/sp.tmpl?CATEGORY_ID=CATEGORY10699&PRODUCT_ID=PROD5917

Yes, at $20 it's pretty pricey but I just use it as a finishing touch when I'm done with the back and a few drops go a long way. My clients love it, and it has a pleasant wintergreen scent and they have described the feeling as a warming in the area where it's applied.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Lucy, Cindy, Yui, new Jojo, Coco, Cici, busty Amber, Kelly & Jasmine โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awai
  38. SpringGreen.:
    Apple off your weeked with a bang๏ผ Judy is at spring green in downtown toronto Tuesday from 9am-9pm with apple and coco. apple is a very beautiful andcaring young lady๏ผkitty is super hot.๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹647-891-0699 ask and text questions thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  41. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, MALIYA, MONIKA, ANGEL, MIMI, PREETI, ANGELINA, DIYA, PAYAL PEARL, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (1PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  45. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, โ™ฅ๏ธRICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Yoga Lucy, Killer Kelly, Adorable Eva, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญLUCY AND KELLY๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธAmberCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  47. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (1pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  48. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience,relief your pain,amazing ending๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนmust try
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
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