Addicted ... to one hoe

Well perhaps it's been a long held rule by ho's that they are not going to kiss a customer because it's more "intimate" if they did this and maybe the movie borrowed the idea. I don't know. But what I do know is that I've heard tons of stories by ho's that have told me I don't kiss because of "Pretty Woman" or something along those lines but for sure mentioned the movie.

To me this is a very interesting topic/subject because I think this hobby is slowly moving into a "better experience" area. I have nothing to go on but my experiences and what I've read and seen on t.v. I think that more ho's/women are accepting that they should enjoy sex. In some ways I see that women dressed like ho's are more accepted than they probably would in years past. Thus real ho's are more accepted than ever before.

I watch porn like any other guy but not too much because I think is a waste of time. Two things that really jump at me when I watch porn is that it's very common to see girls kiss and look at the guy when she's performing a bj and of course enjoying it too.

It's something hard to find in old porn movies. And now the porn industry in LA is dedicating itself in making "porn for women." There is tons of shows out there that depict ho's/women in a good way and I think that ho's are being influenced in a way that they are breaking barriers that they wouldn't break in years past. I would be interested to hear from older mongers to comment on the different changes if any that chicas/ho's have made over the years. On things they've seen or the services chicas/ho's offer today that they would never see before.
 
Goodquestions: " "Pretty Woman." I've never watched this movie but I understand that this movie is the reason ho's don't kiss."

Nope, that is not true, well not true in the sense that it is not the only source from the US that will tell Mexican ho's that they should not kiss the customers.

I clearly remember girls in the early 80's that would not kiss a customer.
 
Update: this chica does not provide good service anymore. She thinks she has the golden pussy. Her attitude seriously sucks now. She will limit how you can kiss her. Limit how you can touch her. Limit how you can hold her. Little to no eye contact. No smiles. Just cold. She prefers to lay on her back and do nothing if possible. This puta ain't nothing to me now.
 
Hi darsh who is this chica that you are talking about. Im new to the monger scene and ur're story sounds tempting for me.
 
That is a straight up Monger. Mr. Riddles is the type to do it in front of yo' face! :D
 
I was curious to know how someone that doesn't speak Spanish communicates with a chica that may not speak English regarding gfe. It's interesting to me.

Anyways it really depends on how the chicas see you. If they think you are handsome they will offer you gfe and even lower their asking price. I been on both sides of the ball when it comes to a chicas asking price. Sometimes my buddies get a lower price and sometimes is me.

Is great that some of these chicas were not badly influenced by the movie "Pretty Woman." I've never watched this movie but I understand that this movie is the reason ho's don't kiss. For some reason I like kissing. It turns me on so I benefit from chicas not paying attention to the movie.

I do ask for a gfe when I approach chicas and it helps when I'm fluent in Spanish. Incidentally I had one of my most memorable experiences when I forgot to ask for a gfe. I just went for everything and she never stopped me so that was great. She didn't even ask for a tip and now I feel a bit guilty for not giving her one. So is also true that you don't need to ask for gfe but it doesn't hurt to ask.
 
I've lost that loving feeling. Seems that having been ditched and lied to my face has been a huge turnoff. I even feel a slight disgust toward her now. I don't even know if I want to puck her anymore.

Girls either give gfe, or they don't. No spanish necessary. Just depends on them, and maybe you too. Putas that always give gfe probably think... "ok, this guy is not so ugly, so I can kiss him. I can handle that in order to make money." I've seen this 18 yr old looking girl in HK kissing a dude who was ~68/70 years old on the mouth. For all these girls, kissing on the mouth or giving you BBBJ means zero to them. Just another paycheck, and they will give it to anyone that pays them.
 
Well I hope everything ends well with you not marrying her or anything of that sort. I have some questions. What's her name and where does she work? How does a guy that doesn't speak Spanish ask for a gfe? The first time you banged her did it just happened(gfe)?

I could never bang a chica more than once in TJ. With that said, it does feel good when you bang a chica/ho several times. I do it in LA. In fact I've only come back for more with two but I already dropped one. I wouldn't say I'm addicted to the current one but I would say that I love the feeling of seeing her again and right away she remembers me. She's looser and more comfortable every time. She makes me feel like if I'm banging my girlfriend and not a ho and maybe that's the fantasy that makes us come back.
 
No, no. I respect boundaries. She's a hoe, so there are other guys, of course. There is only an expectation that she keeps an appointment, or that she is "genuine" for the time she is with you. You can't expect anything else. However, it's still common for girls to not give what you expected, i.e. GFE, time, or punctuality. Nothing could be done in these cases except consider it lost money and part of the game. No way I would actually marry or have a hoe as a real girlfriend. I think hoes minds are already so fucked up after fucking so many guys for money that they cannot see any guy the same way again except as a piggybank. Only looking for a temporary fantasy.
 
That is some very strong words man. I just hope you don't do anything stupid to her, or the other mongers she's with.

Relax, take it easy. See yourself as a brand new monger everytime you're there.

I don't want hear on the news; "A John commited murder-suicide, hooker was a victim."
 
Actually, I do have her contact info: her phone number, email, msn, and even social network. I don't generally call because international calling is expensive. However, I am very tempted to msn instant messages whenever I see her online, and disappointed when she invariably does not return them right away or at all. By the way, I in the past I have never exchanged personal contact information and I liked this chica so much that I took this extra step. I like this chica so much that I am learning spanish, whereas before I never had any motivation to learn. I like this chica so much that I can say I almost feel "love," or if not love, then infatuation. This feeling of infatuation is very special to me because I haven't felt this way in many years. I can literally count on one hand the number of infatuations I've had in my lifetime. I even feel as strongly or even more strongly in some ways about this girl then my actual real life girlfriend I had before.

Sometimes I can just think about her and get excited. I like this girl so much that I even want to go on vacation with her for a week in order to prolong my girlfriend fantasy with her.

I know I should keep away, but there is an urge to see her and I cannot stop thinking about her, just like happened over 10 years ago in high school when you had a crush on a girl. I know most every monger on this site would not approve, and give advice to not see her again and even stay away from TJ. However, I think I need to continue seeing her until I hit rock bottom, as long as it doesn't hurt me financially because I feel this is something that may reoccur in the future and I need to learn how to deal with this feeling/situation by seeing it through. The only way to really learn is through experience. (We've all heard the cliche, "Do as I Say, Not as I Do"). So, I will keep seeing her and eventually I will lose interest, which is in the nature of most guys. It is bound to happen because she will no longer be new, fresh sex toy and there is always better pussy that comes by in weeks or months. However, even as I say this I have doubts myself because I feel this is the best I've ever had in terms of both looks and GFE. I am amazed I can kiss such a gorgeous girl with beautiful eyes staring back at me. And her pussy... has such a great "tug" feeling. I know I shouldn't have, but I even barebacked this girl a number of times before. Very poor judgment, as she probably barebacked dozens of guys before me in the past month. However, recently had her with condom.

I will refuse to be the "boyfriend" giving a monthly allowance, or buying expensive gifts. Only the standard $60 per 30 min, or $100 for the 1 hour, or reasonable amount based on TLN. The only thing that saves me is relative financial discipline. On this forum, I have no goal in particular except as an outlet to share personal experiences and maybe seek out some advice or shared understandings.
 
Dangerous waters. On a few levels. The good thing, for now, is it seems you don't have her contact info, ie, phone number as you say you try to find her when you come as opposed to calling her letting her know you're coming. I say, keep it that way. With a phone number, you would be tempted to call her when you are away from TJ just to say hi which would only make it worse.

So what is your goal? Are you looking for advice to curb your feelings? Are you looking for approval? What?
 
I've "got it bad." I never felt this would happen to me, but I'm "addicted" to one hoe. Having banged many women (90-100) over many years, I have in the past never given second thought to hoes after the act. Even having banged civilian women, which range from average to slightly cute, I am the guy that can leave her without being emotionally vested.

However, there's one hoe recently that got me thinking about her a lot. She is "special." Her qualities rise beyond all the other hoes and civilian women I've had. Beautiful face, eyes, complexion, good set of tits, a cute ass, and a pussy that just feels so good. She's the girl that you could never imagine to be a hoe, yet here she is. Great GFE sessions. She's the girl you had a crush on in high school, but could never get, yet she is available to you for GFE sex in TJ. I enjoyed it so much that I've banged her 7 times and want more. I cannot stop wanting to be with her or thinking about her. This should not happen to me given my experience level, yet it has. I am addicted to this one hoe. Other hoes in my mind cannot match this one, and I feel zero interest in other hoes at the moment. This feels very much like a "high school crush" to me, yet it's worse because you can actually have wonderful sex with her. I know in the long run she will lose her looks in several years from all the smoking, cerveza drinking, lack of exercise, and simple age progression, but in the short-term this girl has got me hooked. Whenever I come to TJ, which is a lot recently, I try to find this girl.

The other thing is, she would be easier for me to forget about her if she was a real bitch and tried to take advaneforum.xxxe of me, but this is not her (yet). I would not be a smuck and let any girls take advaneforum.xxxe of me. She has got to earn every 30 min or hour that I pay her at a reasonable rate.
 
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    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  33. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  34. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Jasmine, Echo, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Doris, busty Amber, Kelly & Luna โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  35. Bencook:
    Suko have many beautiful girls working here ๐Ÿ˜Newer lala 24,beautiful lineup Mia Nora student Hellen Big boobs jojo yumi please call 647 718 6182
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  37. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  38. SugarLoveSpa:
    today have tifany mia chrishtina come baby Chuyแปƒn enjoy your time with all service available have beautiful young girl 20 to 30 years old, Sugar Love spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 365-2688๐Ÿ“ฒโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more.. hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience.must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    โœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGOOD NEWS GOOD NEWSโœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’‹Cambodian Princess Suki will return to Jennyโ€™s Spa next Tuesday June 3rd๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa will be working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke next Tuesday June 3rd with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Camb
  42. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 2 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JESSICA (3pm-9pm) is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
  46. starjey888:
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  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Larissa , Gabby , Sunny, Kimmie , Christine and new Lora on duty at top norch wellness. Call 437-522-9961 now
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Tuesday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Christina ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, AMANDA, PAOLA, MALIYA, PREET, SARIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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