Warning for hobbyists

[James Y]

This was posted yesterday by the admin of another board. I'm interrupting my vacation to share it, with the permission of both the other admin and The Dean, because I think it's important info for everyone to keep in mind.


Hobbyists Beware!

I hesitated until I had all the facts but now I have enough information that I feel comfortable making this post. This is an FYI post intended as a learning tool for new hobbyists and not intented to cast a negative light on any person. I will not provide any further information on the parties involved so don't bother to ask.

A known hobbyist received a envelope containing pictures of his car parked in front of his hotel room, as well as a picture of an escort leaving his room, along with a note asking for $50,000 or he would be subject to his employer and relatives being told of his hobbying. The hobbyist believes that he was tracked down through his license plate as the envelope was sent to the exact address on his vehicle registration (the vehicle is registered to his business) and it is not the street address of his business or his home address. The note indicated that all communications would be made via an email address. The hobbyist decided not to pay the sum requested and 3 months have gone by and there has been no further contact. He believes this is because he tracked down the escort potentially involved and made his feelings clear to her about what the outcome of this incident would be if it were to go further.

I am posting this to provide some suggestions on how to prevent this from happening. If any hobbyists have further suggestions then please post them in the thread so that we can share our best ideas. Here are my thoughts:

1. The escort advertised exclusively on Craiglist. There are plenty of reliable agencies and independents who are members of G****, and while G**** doesn't provide any guarantees, the members here have gone through some minimum requirements in order to "advertise" here.

2. With all of the known robberies and murders that have occured as a result of answering ads on Craiglist and other free classified advertising sites, I don't understand why anyone would take the risk but if you do then do some research. The escort potentially involved in this matter was a former agency escort who had received reviews when she was with the agency and as an independent. A simple search would have shown that the escort, and her boyfriend who serves as her driver, have a history of erratic behaviour.

3. Don't park your car directly in front of the room. Park in another area of the hotel or better yet across the street or down the block.

4. Always call from a private number or from the hotel. Never text. Those who believe that a mobile phone can't be traced are dead wrong, unless the mobile phone is prepaid and not registered.

5. Use hotels that are SP friendly and don't require you to register in your real name. Even a hotel ledger left opened at the front desk can be an issue if it has your real information on it.

6. Hide any valuables (jewelry, credit cards, cash except for the amount for the escort) or identification in the room, or better yet leave them locked in your car.

7. This one is obvious. Don't share any personal information with the escort. Keep your conversation pleasant but intentionally vague. You and her are there for a purpose and you don't know what is really going on in her life, or who is involved in her life, and what she is like outside of the time she is with you. She is selling a fantasy, which is what you are buying, and anything beyond that is at your peril.

I don't mean to sound too negative. I have enjoyed this hobby for many years and there are some pleasant and trustworthy escorts and hobbyists. Just take some basic precautions and do some research and have fun.

 

[Larrisa]

Thank you for the information SG.

 

[Andrew F]

Why I only poon through reliable agencies.

 

[Iqhwan]

This could apply to sex workers as well, anyone who is living a secret.

I wonder if this was a random choice or if there were other reasons he was selected to be blackmailed? We should try to limit and control any escalation of threats on both sides.

 

[sir galahad]

This is helpful. One thing that Ill add, don't leave your personal information in your coat. When you go into the shower there is plenty of time for a girl to look at your drivers license of credit cards. If you can, limit what you take to a call.

 

[Eugene]

SG, appreciate the 411!

 

[Christopher A]

Good point. Thanks Sillygirl.

 

[<<TANZ>>]

Thanks for the info. I have been lucky so far but I have used trusted agencies. Never ventured into graigslist or Duttslist.

 

[IWonder]

It's all about being careful and yes that goes for both the client and SP.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Wow, scary shit but I'm not surprised. There is a board dedicated to outing hobbyists and industry people so this scam is all part of the seedy side of the game.

 

[Pompal 09.]

That point about not leaving info in your jacket while showering really opened my eyes too.

I dont think getting outed would hurt me but I can see where it would be a problem for many hobbyiests.

Does make you wonder why people would stray from the agencies and reviewed independents. Saving a few bucks seems like a bad investment.

 

[babygirlbrunnett52]

I am glad to hear they didn't get squat from the dude. Good for him, I hope he put the fear of God into the dirtbags!

 

[Mae B Jolly]

heres another scary one for you all.
same scenario with craigslist.

downtown hotel.last year, girl was from out of town.

Guy goes for an incall, likes the girl takes her for dinner.
when they come back, 2 guys hiding in the bathroom, rob the guy at gun point.

It happens , reputable agencies are the way to go.

 

[Pompal 09.]

You can add well known independents to that.

 

[mindset36]

Thanks for the eye opener SG. I've been too careless time to smarten up.

 

[b3k@]

Appreciate the heads up.

 

[Eric]

I can't help to think that who ever did this to this guy is either someone he knows well or he spoke about hes personal life to someone he should of not.
How can someone that does not know him well pull this off? They had to know this guy was paranoid about hes personal life to the point of asking for 50K?
If they do this to me I would laugh and wipe my ass with the letter. I am not married and my close friends know about it.
One should be very carefull of the things you tell strangers.

PS

One more thing that doesn't make any sense......Why would they send the letter to adress on the plate registration ?
What if that was the persons home and hes wife took the letter ?
I guess at this point he would not have to pay the 50K anymoe lol.

 

[Anna :)]

Its always nice to get the friendly reminder, watch how you play and play safe. With your penis and your personal info!

 

[Floss]

It sounds pretty far fetched but normal safety should be taken anyways. I almost choked at the leaving clothes/wallet in room with stranger while showering, that is just a tad crazy, regardless of how well you think you know the girl.

If you ever get robbed report it obviously (I can't believe anyone would not but it happens).

A cell phone can be traced really simply whether it is prepaid or postpaid so that part is total nonsense. Every call/txt/email/web you use registers on a tower and an employee in a cell company can easily be bribed to give up that info (esp if a $50,000 payout is involved, the $100 to some high school drop out is a no brainer).

The other part of the thread does sound like it has an agenda to promote it's own girls (esp point #1)

 

[qwerqwer]

Oh fuck. Now my paranoia went up 10 fold.

uch:uch:uch:uch:

I wish I knew about escorts before craigslist.