Using Arnica?

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Its the deer season opener this weekend - I would like to do a "Calm of the Wild" (get it? CALL of the wild!) Sportsman Special type thing. A more deep, sports oriented massage - These guys can get pretty stiff sore after a day in the field. I heard that Arnica is great for healing and sports massage - but how can I incorporate it into a massage? In what form do I use it? Anything else I can use? Sombra and Prossage would be good too.

**I dont like hunting of ANY kind....but after totalling two cars by hitting deer I am more inclined to believe in some population control!
 
Using Arnica

Hello, I use Arnica Oil brand name - Weleda. It has a woodsey smell and it works nicely to massage with. Massage catalogs and health food stores carry it. :D
 


ergh.. just lost my post..

anyway, cute idea.

i think that biotone dual purpose massage cream has arnica and ivy in it. arnica is very good for bruising, aches and pains (i have a horse trainer who swears by it). if that particular cream isn't it, i KNOW that one of their creams does have it.

do a search for 'arnica montana' and you will certainly find creams, ointments and such with this awesome ingredient.

good luck!
 


Yes, the biotone dual purpose cream has arnica and ivy extracts in it. I use it all the time. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't say how much arnica is in the cream. I personally use arnica gel on injuries, especially when my hands are sore, I rub it in. I wouldn't use it directly for massage, unless it is built into the product. I would apply it after the session in the effected areas, and educate my clients on the benefits of arnica as a suggested measure.
 


I also use the Weleda Arnica Oil and think it's fantastic! I use it full strength on my elderly clients. You know how how their skin gets thin and anytime they bump something they get the large bruise-like discolorations (especially when they are on blood-thinners?) Well, I put arnica oil on them and it really helps a lot. Some of my clients I even give them some to take home with them to use in between sessions.

I also add some of the arnica oil to my massage creme and I swear that it helps to prevent soreness in my hands.

Angie
 


Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php
 


Intuitouch said:
Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php

When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) - would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount to matter?

I use arnica a lot and I love it! Great idea Dorikaters! I hope it works out for you.
 


Oh thanks so much guys - awesome information. Thanks for the links, I'll check them out right away!!!
 


Masthera said:
Intuitouch said:
Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php

When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) - would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount to matter?

I use arnica a lot and I love it! Great idea Dorikaters! I hope it works out for you.

i'm pretty sure that's only if you ingest st. john's wart. i don't think an oil on the skin is going to mess with BCP.

i love arnica gel. i have not tried welda's because it contains lanolin. i've always heard that it actually dries you out. i do want to check out that mountain rose product. thanks for the link. :)
 


Masthera, I would tend to agree with Jillith, however I don't know for certain.

I emailed Mountain Rose Herb Company with your question and hope to hear a response from them soon. I have invited them to post their response directly or if I receive an email from them I will post their response.
 


I have a client who uses the Arniflora Arnica Gel.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/browse/sku_detail.jhtml;$sessionid$00GYT2UZF0MQMCQUAOYCFEQKCQB00GXK?SkuID=588&BreadCrumbType=SearchResult

She swears by it.
 


I received this response from Mountain Rose Herb Company.
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Dear Kathy,

Unfortunately we will not be able to assist you as much as we would
like, because we are not licensed practitioners nor medical doctors.
Per FDA regulation, they forbid us from providing you with medical
advice, dosage information, potential drug/herb reactions, or assistance
with questions relating to injury, illness etc. While some of us are
knowledgeable herbalists; we are neither licensed medical practitioners,
nor pharmacists or researchers, and we are legally restricted from
answering your medical questions. Specifically, I am not familiar with
the Birth Control Pill in any way, and I would not be able to give you
an accurate answer because I do not know exactly how the Birth Control
Pill works or how it specifically affects the body. The only way you
can really get a thorough and accurate answer to this question would be
to find somebody who had specific knowledge about both materials in
question. We thank you for your understanding and recommend that you do
your own research, if appropriate, with the assistance of a licensed
practitioner, (Naturopath, nutritionist, pharmacist, medical doctor
etc.).
Our only recommendation at this point is to refer to one of several
links we have provided below.
We hope this helps and thank you for your understanding.
Regards and best wishes
Graham

The American Herbalists Guild
http://www.americanherbalistsguild.com/

Herb Research Foundation
http://www.herbs.org

The Directory of Holistic Practitioners
http://www.diagnose-me.com/regional-X.html

The Holistic Junction
http://www.holisticjunction.com

Mountain Rose Herbs
A Herbs Health & Harmony Company
PO Box 50220
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(800) 879-3337
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com

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Subject: Question about St. John's Wort affecting birth control pills

Name: Kathy

Message: Hello. I am the administrator of massageplanet.com, a forum
for professional bodyworkers and massage practitioners which encourage
practitioners to discuss professional issues, products and other aspects
of our profession.

During a discussion about arnica I made a recommendation for your arnica
and St. John's wort massage oil. A question came up regarding the
effect of St. John's Wort on birth control pills. Could you please
address this concern?

Actual question: "When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) -
would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have
read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount
to matter?"

Link to the forum:
http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3578

I would like to post your answer on the forum. If you would prefer to
address this question directly you are welcome to register to the site
and post your response.

Thank you,
Kathy
 


Thanks Intuitouch! :D

Here is some information about St. John's Wort from one of the links for anyone else that is interested: http://herbs.org/greenpapers/stjohnswort.htm

Within the information it states that there is no evidence that supports it having an effect on birth control pills.

Also here is something else that I found to be useful: http://www.holisticjunction.com/displayarticle.cfm?ID=65
 
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    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  37. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Elsa, Coco, Eva, Cindy, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, Yoyo, JPN Yui & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair mina smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience โค๏ธvery sexy Vietnamese girl Amy,open maid,amazing the end,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿฅคall awesome massage ๐Ÿ‘๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSamy๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธIvy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. DareDevil:
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  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธKellyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (8PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JESSIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  44. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
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  45. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NANCY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  46. SpringGreen.:
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  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  48. AliceSpa:
    3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA (12pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. SKY (10:30am-9pm): is Part time girl from Indonesia, petite 5'2", B Cup, 100 Lbs, long black hair, new to the biz.Young, fresh/cute, pretty, submissive, slim tiny waist, fair skin. bbbj
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services...
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. CINDY is slim
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