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Hi
I'm not a reflexologist but I do others therapies and have reduced my rates by about ยฃ5. Had have a few extra bookings since.
Allie
 
I'm not a reflexologist either, but don't drop your prices! That's the route to, at best, being very busy and making no money.

If you feel you need to do more to attract or keep clients add more value in some way, or offer an even better service.

Or another way of looking at this ... are you charging enough? Play with some price points in your mind and note how they feel to you. How does doubling your current fee feel? If that's too uncomfortable visualise a few pounds less then that, until you find a point that feels good. If doubling actually feels very comfortable double again ... play :-)

My bank manager once told me to reduce my fees to rock bottom as the only way of getting clients (in a small rural area). I did so and it made no difference at all. Now my fees would cause her to fall off her chair and I've got more clients than ever.

Just my experience of course :-)
 
I do reflexology as well as many other therapies and the thought of lowering my prices hasn't even entered my head. I haven't been affected at all by the current ecomonic climate. I had actually thought about putting my hot stone prices up!

I agree with DeepTrance. iI you lower your prices now, clients won't like it when you put them back up again.
 
No I haven't. Whenever I've introduced special offers etc. it's never attracted more clients. I truly believe that if people really want the treatments they will come. I haven't actually noticed any decline in business. Perhaps I would have gained more new clients if the economic climate was different, but I have remained at a steady rate so far.
 
Hi Jeannie,

As with others who have replied, I'm not a reflexologist but I would assume that someone working in any therapy field would be able to answer this based on their experiences (worth noting for future reference that threads like this often do well in the Business and Marketing forum, it's also worth looking in there for similar threads).

I'm actually about to put my prices up, although not by much as I'm not as comfortable in doing so as I usually am.

Reducing prices is pointless unless you like working hard for little money (or worse, still not having enough clients but at a lower rate!). In my opinion, people who look for a therapist based on price alone
a) Have their priorities seriously wrong when it applies to their health and wellbeing
and b) Will never be a decent client, they'll be off somewhere else as soon as they find a cheaper price.

A favourite quote of mine which I have always felt is so true:

(John Ruskin).
 
Interesting replies, in one hand (as a therapist) I can see the reluctance to lower prices, however as a potential client wanting some therapies I feel aggrieved that prices have not been lowered. Now due to other financial committments in life I will have to forego treating myself. Just another interesting perspective don't you think
 
The way I look at it is if people are really unable to pay the full price, does lowering it by ยฃ5, say, make it more affordable to them? I just don't see it as a way to bring in more business, and would only mean that I do the same work, but get less income. I did make the decision not to raise my fees this year - the first time ever - but I wouldn't lower them. I have done some bundled offers, which add value, and in fact this has attracted business, but I don't think lowering my prices per se would. My dentist hasn't seen a need to lower his prices, my hairdresser has put hers up quite considerably "to cover her extra costs", my car mechanic and window cleaner are charging more than they were a year ago.
 
If you can't afford treatments for yourself then perhaps you should increase your own prices so that you have more income?

As Charis said, other businesses/services are either the same price or more expensive than they were last year. Although supermarkets etc are still in price wars (which means that many households that have regular incomes not affected by the recession actually have more money than usual!), there are very few businesses that are reducing their prices.

In fact price reductions in many industries just look desperate or not believable (like Kwik Fit who always have an offer on but can always be beaten on like for like products if you shop around, DFS who always have a sale on etc). A few weeks ago, I drove past a hairdressers near where I live and the windows were crammed full with A4 special offer posters on everything they do. The assumption both I and my wife drew was that the hairdresser must be on the verge of going out of business.
 
Hi Jeannie,

Do you offer any therapies yourself, and if so, have you lowered your prices? All businesses could lower the price of their services during these hard times but then they have less money coming in and then that may have the knock on effect of having to let staff go. Then these people cannot afford to pay for services and so more businesses suffer. It really is a vicious circle and business people really have to work out where they draw the line in regard to how much they charge for services and goods, just the same as many of us have to think twice before spending at the moment.
Unless ofcourse you're an MP - then there are a different set of rules!!!
 
Jeannie, why don't you post on the therapy swap forum, if you're willing to give someone else a treatment in return for receiving one yourself?
 
Although I have not reduced my fee for a 55 min reflexology treatment(โ‚ฌ55). I have introduced a 30min(โ‚ฌ40) follow up treatment so that it is more accessible in the current climate...I usually add a few extra mins too. I feel that it is important that treatments that reduce stress are accessible to all at the moment.
 
DeepTrance...I'm not a reflexologist either, but don't drop your prices! That's the route to, at best, being very busy and making no money.

Candy...55 min reflexology treatment(โ‚ฌ55). I have introduced a 30min(โ‚ฌ40) follow up treatment.

Lets look at this situation...I now have a job and only do my therapies occassionally (not really a business as such) When I first started out with holistic therapies, 12 years ago, I did so primarily because I wanted to help people, in some way ease their path in life. I did not think of it as a way of making money. For those in it as a fulltime business, then of course you have to make money. However, I truly find it impossible to believe some of the prices charged. How can figures such as ยฃ40 or ยฃ50 pounds be fair for one hour of work. Especially for an hour of work that is supposed to be related to helping people in life. I would not feel right in charging such prices, we should try to promote holistic therapies in a way that is accessible to all, not just the well off.
 
I have been a full time therapist for many years, and have kept my prices affordable, as the therapy I offer means that people have to see me regularly - and I pay tax etc on my earnings, which, at the end of the day, doesn't leave me much. I do get your point about trying to help people, but I see my work as being as valuable as the plumber I have just had to employ at ยฃ65 PER EACH QUARTER HOUR for 3 hours to cure a leak. Likewise, the builder I had to employ to reinforce an external loadbearing wall, who charged ยฃ250 per day, materials extra, for 5 days. They haven't reduced their prices due to the current economic crisis, but both are self-employed and trying to stay in business.

It took me 5 years working part-time, to pay off my initial training costs when I first started out in the late 70's. I have also done my share of charity work, and still do (I have elderly clients who don't even know I charge!!!!). Presently my business is ticking over nicely, and I have not seen any reduction in my client base.
 
I keep trying to get my head round the challenges people have round the charging issue, as I do really want to understand. However, as Jabba says, wrapped up in the 50 euro charge (so actually not even as much as ยฃ50 per hour) is all the costs the therapist has accrued to get that client in front of them. That includes their training costs, their room costs, their marketing costs, their insurance, their cpd. yadda, yadda ;-) I know that sometimes students look round my training room and do a quick "HOW much is she earning?!?" calculation. At the top line, it looks impressive, but on the bottom line, it really isn't. As a fairly new business (I gave up therapies to set up a training school three years ago), my business isn't hugely profitable yet, so while the turnover is respectable, I'm not coining it. And if I WAS, I would be very happy :-) I give freely two days a month for voluntary work, and I have no compunction whatsoever for charging a fair price (and yes, I would consider 50 euros and higher an hour fair) for the rest of it.
 
Jabba the Hut...plumber I have just had to employ at ยฃ65 PER EACH QUARTER HOUR for 3 hours to cure a leak. Likewise, the builder I had to employ to reinforce an external loadbearing wall, who charged ยฃ250 per day, materials extra, for 5 days.


Sorry but two wrongs don't make a right. I would not like to be classed as a rip off merchant such as a plumber or builder.
 
But as others have already explained, there's nothing 'wrong' with charging a fee that takes into account the costs involved in running a business - if you disagree with that, I think you're being a bit naive. If you dont want to pay as much, then try a mobile therapist, who doesnt have the same overheads and therefore ought to charge less, or a therapy swap as I suggested earlier
 
Can't quite under stand 'two wrongs' comment. Neither my plumber, nor my builder, could be classed as rip-off merchants, or, heaven forbid, 'cowboys'. The former is the third generation in the family business, and has done extensive training and is insured/registered to the hilt - he also employs two apprentices . My builder (family freind of 30 years) is a Master Builder, coming up for retirement - I don't begrudge his charges one bit - I have neither the knowledge nor the skill to do what he does. I know my limits.

I've been fleeced by a few 'rip off merchants' in my life, but please don't tar them all with the same brush.
 
Jabba the Hut. I don't begrudge his charges one bit - I have neither the knowledge nor the skill to do what he does. I know my limits.

Hummm, If you don't begrudge paying ยฃ65 for 15 minutes of someones work/time then that is your choice.
 
Well,when I finish later in the year I intend to charge 50 euro per treatment,45 minutes to one hour.I have already ploughed alot of money into my training and Im sure people will have no hesitation once they get the results.If one wishes to do therapies for other reasons then that is fine,for me personally if I have to pay for all my other services I receive then I could not justify not charging.
 
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  36. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approa
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New โ—๏ธ New girl Anna dainty and cute! Sexy body Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of p
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปvery popular girl,more experience,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธIsabella Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  41. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: ASHLEY (12pm-9pm) is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  45. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธXukaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and young Taiwanese Victoria slime 25โ€™s open mind, young sexy Sophia with curve body 30โ€™s and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ANGEL, SONIA, PRIYA, AMANDA, PAOLA, PREETI, KIRAN, ANGELINA, MONIKA, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Kiki and Bella. They are both short, young, pretty, with lovely smiles and good massage.
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Sami Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girlโ€จโ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New โ—๏ธ New girl Anna dainty and cute! Sexy body Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of p
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