Angelica (HK), Betty (BD), Gaby (CumInTJ), et al. (a trip report)

Well, very intresting.

Shall I get affidavits from them???

I mean, these are only my 2009 girls.
Shall I get my girls from previous years too???

Dodgers, remember: Iam a local boy. One that gets to see his GFs and regular girls on a daily basis if a want to.
 

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nah i don't believe it,u say u are in your 50's.

they get money out of u in some way:p :D
 

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Sorry to tell you... sorry if you don't believe it, but I don't pay this 2 GF's.
 

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you don'y pay your 2 regulars? you must be paying for the Depo?:D
 

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Real Physical, the litmus test works for you?

Good. Am glad you are confident it does and it has worked for you.
 

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Kissing, Pelongera... Iam 50 years old and I have a bunch of novias at the clubs.

Two regulars and several others.
Has to do with them being used to having mature customers, confortable with them, and yes, money.
Though with my 2 regulars I don't pay at all.
 

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The litmus test I proposed below works for me, it isn't 100% but it has work for me when I go to AB, which is not often, as I mostly look for greek providers more than anything else. I am usually an escort guy, as safety and relative ease is my primary concern, but when I have gone to bars with my buddies, this is what I use as my screen test.
 

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you offer some great tips, Amigomio:



you make four helpful points: jale, flirting, kissing, and buying fichas all in effort to maintain control of the session.

The Jale techniques--tits in the face, sitting on a monger's lap, and the fanny in the face--are really interesting. On this trip, I was literally pushing one woman away, while the messero was taking her order! It wasn't until I got angry that both of them left me alone. What's up with that? I said 'no" politely 4 or 5 times before getting angry!

As far as the flirting goes, I would not allow it IF I knew she initiated it. But in my case, the younger guy raced up to her, put his arms around her, and whispered something. It looked like she was being polite. You gotta expect druken regulars to step on your toes every once in while. Maybe, if it happens in the future, I'll ditch the chick. but that was a first and it looked like a close call.

But it sounds like you're now affirming realphysical's Kiss Test?

anyway, I mean no offense to my fellow mongers who kiss prostitutes. One reason I don't is that want to minimize exchanging fluids in order to prolong my life as a clean monger.

the other reason is undoubtedly related to low self-esteem. I can't image why a hot 20 year old would want to kiss my aging face.
 

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Pelongera.
My method, not foolproof either, is not allowing the girls to get the upper hand.
Am a tough experienced cookie that will not allow, for example, for the girls to sit on me, never.
Never permit them to flirt or do their "jale" (in Spanish their "job").
By flirting I really tell them "you preffer him... go away" (sounds familiar, Pelongera?) and that's where I will know if she wants to be with me.

By "jale" I mean, some girls will go up to the point of taking their tops off believing they will blind me or make me an idiot that will go "ga-ga" looking at nipples.
I don't let them stand up and turn around and dance to the music, placing their ass on my face. When they do that, that means they don't want to see our faces.

I will never allow them to ask for ficha drinks unless I order the waiter for one.

I got a style and I use it fairly well.
And part of it is, if a girl doesn't kiss, I don't want her at all.
I can judge by the way they kiss if they are good or not good.

But not as THE "test", it is part of my aproach in judging them, part of many things.
 

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amigomio, by its logic realphysical's kissing test would not deny that some girls can turn into wildcats in the room, although they wouldn't kiss downstairs.

the question is How many chicas have you kissed in the manner realphysical describes only to find that in the room they turn into scammers upstairs?

Personally, I don't deep tongue kiss prostitutes. but it sounds like it might be as good a test as any.

By the same token, I've had plenty of great lays from chicas who did not hold my hand on the way to the room. But of the ones who held my hand, I can only remember one bad one: Paulina. The others have been among the best sessions.

And I'll pay attention to the response to ass-graping. But I'd be very surprised if a chica fails all three of those tests and yet turns into a wildcat in the room.

That's starting to sound like a typical male fantasy: the good girl in public, the nymph in private.

doesn't sound like a prostitute, certainly not one at Hong Kong.
 

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Realphysical, let me point out to you that there are some excelent girls out there that deserve an Oscar for the way they can act.

So good they can really fool you.
You just don't have an idea of how some of the girls can read you on the spot and play along with you.

No matter if it's kissing, groping, whatever.

And I am not kidding: kissing a girl after buying a drink and she following suit is surrendering to her, not the other way around.

I know tons of girls that will not kiss in front of other girls and will not let themselves be groped.. but will turn into wildcats the moment they hop in bed.

No, that test is no good at all.
 

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Gents the best way to know if the girl is going to be a pleaser or a bitch is thru this test that my ex boss taught me. When you are buying her a drink talk to her and try to kiss her, if she lets you then its game on, if not then no mas. I am not talking about a little smooch, but more like a passionate kiss, almost DFK. If she passes the previous test, then the second test is on the way up stairs, you and her are holding your hands, if not then it's not a pleaser, and the third and final litmus test is to start to rub her butt walking up the stairs, if she tells you to stop them head the other way. I am usually an escort guy, but when I go to for a BG, this is the type of tests I put the girl to get me to go upstairs. Also, the girls in the back near the restrooms and the girls in the back, behind the bar, are generally not the hottest chick but they are nicer/new/er and give better experience. Also ask they waiters for any new girls, as new girls give better experience and remember to tip the waiters well! atleast 5 bucks. Go for new and not hot for the best experience!
 

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Unless you're hiring a bus to take them all to an orthodontist I'm sure I'll be OK for my next visit. Girls w/o braces are completely invisible to the good doctor.
 

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Amen to that Supergato! I remember in my first time in tj I did not even know I had a choice. I once got this heavy set woman in her late 40's that jumped on me like flys on shit and just wouldn't leave. Unfortunately, I wound up spending over 40 dollars in drinks for her. I finally caught my break when she told me not to leave while she went to take a piss. I made a run for it. My last such instance was in AB. I was standing near the bar when a girl walks up to me and startsto talk to me.and asking for drinks. I tried to ignore her and looked away but she was clinging to my arm and before I knew it the bar tender tells me it's 12 for the drinks she has ordered for us. What a bitch. I kinda got back at her by promising to go upstairs with her just as soon as my, (make believe) friends came in and I could report. I loved the look on her face when she saw me walk out with a way better looking girl.
 

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SG... Dr B will be in Monterrey Wednesday onwards.

I will make sure there are no girls left for you after his visit...!!!
 

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I don't mind the girls with braces and there's nothing to be afraid of. We're not talking about the Jaws villain from the James Bond movies. I end up going arriba with a lot of girls with braces since I like them in the 18-25 year range so braces come with the territory.

The girl I met the other night may not have been your Paulina. He said that it seems in Hong Kong "voy al baٌo" must mean "I'm going to go dance for another guy".



Yes, I see this happen a lot too. Some girls can see the easy marks and attack them from the second they walk in. And the ones that aggressively come on to you are the ones that will either scam you or are older/less pretty/larger and need to work harder to get business. A lot of guys are too polite to just tell them to go away. So they buy them a drink, then another one, and possibly go upstairs. Instead, they should just politely tell her that you're not interested instead of trying to not hurt her feelings.

Since I'm in the clubs so often they pretty much know I'm not some n00b on my virgin trip. Even when I go places I've never been before, I'll try and do my homework by reading these boards and know what I'm in for.
 

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Pelongera, like Fireballs commented, when they approach you that's an indication that they may have picked you out of the herd as a easy prey. In my early days I would be pinned down by a chika as soon as I set foot in the bar and then she would try and blind me with how good she was in bed and how I would get the special attention. Well, more than once I fel for it only to be disappointed as soon as the room door closed behind me and she had my money. The would immediately switch from sales mode to profit more. It goes like this, once they have the cash they treat you like shit and say things to turn you off and make you want to just end the sour experience. At the end I would just think back at how it all seemed too good to be true. Today, I just sit back and watch how these girls pick out their prey, go to the room and come back sometimes in less than 10 minutes.
 

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that's a great post, supergato. I really enjoyed reading it. I can't believe anyone has a thing for chikas with braces. those things scare the bejesus out of me. and as of 4 december, Paulina didn't have them. so I doubt it is her.

but the behavior sounds a like her, especially if she's on drugs.

Otherwise, she's been happy to snuggle up to me downstairs, all the while soaking up fichas, of course.

In reading everybody's comments, I've been reminded that keeping the milage down is very much in the chica's long term interest. And maybe that's part of what motivates the scammers.

of course, that too can lead to stereotyping. Nely de Acapulco @ HK has provided me with some of the best sex of my life. And she's well over 30.
 

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