Advice needed for bulging disc

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Hi, I am new to this site and would be grateful for any advice given. My problem started in 2002 with intermittent back pain this gradually progressed to constant pain. In Nov. 2007 I developed severe pain and was diagnosed with sciatica early 2008. I had physio and joined an aqua- gym through the excercise GP referral scheme. (I was very active before and used to jog 5 times a week). I have undergone several mri's and nerve conduction tests where a 'blockage' was found between L4/S5. I have been tested for MS, lumbar puncture, brain scan and mri's. My latest result shows a disc bulge predominantly on the left L5/S1, but apparently no clear encroachment on the nerve root so surgery is not recommended.
My symptoms include, numbness and pain in both feet, burning pain in both 'big' toes, severe backache, tingling and loss of sensation in fingers on left hand. I often have pain in my left buttock that radiates down the back of my leg. I have experienced bladder and bowel problems, having to go to the toilet more frequently.
I work as a teaching assistant and have been off work since Sept. 2008. It looks as though I will be losing my job because of this condition and there does not seem to be an answer. I contacted my GP yesterday and he says that regular excercise and carrying on as normal a life will eventually see an improvement. My condition has deteriorated over the past year, my walking has become severly imparies and I frequently use a stick to walk. Can anyone offer any advice or has anyone experienced anything similar? All comments will be appreciated.
 
A disc can be bulging and cause you no problems
However, a little to much lifting
Too much twisting and pulling
Too much exercise
All will cause the disc to swell and expand
This brings it in to contact with your sciatic nerve
Then your back ache comes back to you
Sometimes, it will send your knees out and you kiss the floor
Your doctor and most physiotherapists will always advise exercise
They will advise you to stretch your muscles etc
When I followed the doctor and physiotherapists advice
I was off work for months each year
Spent a small fortune on physiotherapy
I was always having back problems
I was always in the hydrotherapy pool
Now I do not exercise or do stretching exercises
I live and work normally,
I have not been off sick for five years
I have had only minimal problems
And been able to work through the problems
A slip trip and fall will and does put me off sick
Do not do anything to make the disc swell
And I find that everything is fine if I do not push my back
Take care of it and treat it like glass
And it should take care of you

This is my solution to a 30 year back problem
After a accident at work
You will have to find your own solution
All this is personal to me and my solution
Start thinking outside the box
Itโ€™s your back and you should know what makes it worse
So, with that in mind, you should find an answer for yourself

hermie
 
Afternoon Bertie Beetle,

Having read your problems, I cannot believe how unlucky you seem to have been with back problems.
My back problems deleoped because of not warming up or cooling down when exercising.
If you were running five times a week, I would assume you would be warming uo before and cooling down after.
I have had a l5 s1 discectomy and am recovering reasonably well.
I have also been told there is a slight l4 l5 central disc bulge whch is not a problem at the moment.
The hermits advice is something to try and you have nothing to lose.
If it doesn't work, I think the only thing to say is experiment and find what works for you as everybody is individual.
Hope you condition improves and you do not lose your job.

Best wishes

dalep115
 
the bulges you have should not cause numbness in your hand , they are lumber disks and can only affect you from the waist down
 
I think your Consultant and GP are following the trusts cost reduction protacols as a priority and don't appear to be looking after you best interests. This condition can be successful treated.

All of the symptoms you state are typical of lumber spine, nerve root impingment (sciatica), exactly what is being impinged and where, needs to be investigated further and the steps below will help.

I would strongly reccomend, that you purchase a private report from an independant Radiologist who will reveiw your MRI scan's and X-rays, that's asuming your hospital will give you a copy, If they dont, then purchase new ones from a private clinic. I would suggest that you choose a Radiologist and clinic as far away from and as unconnected to your hospital as possible, this is in order to aviod any possible bias or favour in this report.

With regards to you hand pain, when you have the condition you appear to have, the spinal column from the lumber region right up to you skull will become bent, this will put preasure on various vertibrae as they travel up your spine column. When one or two of these vertibrae become unballenced and stuck, they can pinch a nerve at any level. You may have such a pinch at either Thoacic or Cervical levels, both of which can tranfer pain signals into either arms. This is typical of lumber spine degeneration!

Best wishes

SPINELF
 
"GP says that regular excercise and carrying on as normal a life will eventually see an improvement." I think it's not bad idea.

It sounds like what you're describing is just degenerative disk disease and soft tissue ( Ligment and tendon) injuries, which can become worse over time. Given the severity of your pain and the functional limitations it's now placing on you, it probably is time to consult with a reputable back acupuncturist (Not general acupuncturist)

Acupuncture is best solution for this kind of back pain,I have to say that "NOT general acupuncturist".

Best wishes !
 
I can send the acupuncture points on fingers joints to massage,
the bulging disk case has been discussed in details for the latest
Su-jok method on the seminar I've attended recently.
 
IMO the problem with advising people to take regular exercise and continue as normal is that it can be misleading. If your 'normal' lifestyle has caused, or is part of the cause, of the problem continuing 'as normal' will only slow healing and potentially aggravate the condition.

Similarly not all exercise is equal. Continuing exercise may be better then laying in bed all day not moving, but a wiser route would be to choose exercise that will strengthen the core muscles that protect the back, promote good posture, encourage healing of damage without risking aggravating the condition. As such I would suggest avoiding exercise that might put more compressive forces on the spine and choose those that use slow controlled movements, or possibly no movement at all, and focus on building core muscle strength.

Core muscles include the transversus abdominus muscle that stabalises the spine during movement. Choosing exersise that targets this muscle without putting execess stress on the spine would be highly recommened for most people with low back pain. Many back problems respond well to exercise that targets that muscle.
 
Pete thanks for saying that. I have been dx with multiple disc problems and they say don't rest - carry on as normal - take the anti inflams and painkillers and it seemed wrong to me as 11 weeks later I am now worse so thanks for giving me confidence that I need to take it more into my own hands.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  39. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  43. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  44. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Petite Korean๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ทGirl Eva working with Sweet Beautiful Japanese New Cummer to Canada Feifei ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  46. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: SARAH, SUSAN, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl, 5'4" & 116 Lbs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services.
  50. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch line up with superstars like sunny , gabby , elena , kiki , Ella and cindy. At top notch wellness
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