16th Ave review and door fees

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Dropped by 16th Ave recently and had another session with Eva. I have reviewed her before, except either I cannot hear or whatever but back then I called her Ava. Whatever. Like it matters.

Anyway, I was pretty happy with her last time so thought to give it a go again.

She asks for all of my pay for about 13 and a half hours at my minimum wage job up front. (You do the math.) This is for a full body massage. I agree on the hopes that things will work out.

She gives a decent but not great massage. Not dressed sexy, just street clothes. The thing that makes her service memorable is that she actually encourages wandering hands during the lead up time. Very cool, but far less so in street clothes.

She gets up on the table and gives a very nice teasing rub down, but all still in the scratchy jeans and t-shirt.

She asks if I am in the mood for tipping. I say sure, I will work another five and a half hours just to pay her for about 2 minutes work. She removes the t-shirt and we get to jackhammer time and I am done.

So, in all, I now give Eva a thumbs down. She seems jaded and has lost her desire to thrill and please. She still is probably better than average, but for my weeks pay for her half hour service, I want something special.

As for the high door fee, it seems this is the new trend, charge up front for basic full service, then get extras from there. I am fine with this as long as the overall performance is there.

Back to the hunt...
 
Hello Honey

I am very sorry to hear that.

Let you in on alittle thing about how it works at 16th Ave.

First bylaw does not allow us to wear cloths that are to sexy. If we wear a skrit it must be one that is just above the knees, the shrit has to reveal nothing in other words no peeking at the girls. If we wear jeans we can wear a shrit that is alittle revealing with alittle peek at the girls.

Another reson she is more then likely dressing in street cloths is because the cloths she may have are not up to bylaw code. Maybe it is way to sexy.

As for the door fee you were givin that because it includes the door fee and the min end of the X.

Door fee is
$35.00 1/2
$50.00 3/4
$70.00 hr
You can add the min X onto that and that is more then likely what she told you it was.

As for asking for what ever eles she asked for I guess it ment that the min was not what she thought you wanted.

As for the rest I have nothing to say. I just thought it would be nice to let everyone know how it really works.

Teri
 
i went to 16th as a first timer and got in the door, i got quoted for 95 bucks. Left, called and asked what the rates were and she said 35 for half and i asked why i was quoted for 95 and she said that 35 was only for a back massage, a fully body goes for 95, so im assuming you have to pay extra op top of the full body.
 
As long as the full body massage includes a hand job.

$35 for the back only?
$95 for the back and front but with no handjob?
Or was it $95 for the back and front and then $40 more for a handjob?

Is that a safe assumption of what to expect.


Because if that it the case I can't see any business from here.
 
in my experience i didnot go for it because i assumed it was only a massage without a ggauranteed hj, i dont wanna pay that much not being assured, if it was included i would be all for it.. but whos to say that the lady could just pick and choose accordingly to who she wants to service.
 
Yep, Teri, we're for real. We're tired of getting or at least feeling like we're getting ripped off by being promised one thing and something else delivered. The only way you know for sure what you're getting into is to ask questions and then to share the info.
 
In Vancouver there are all inclusive massage parlours:

Great Pharaoh

So everyone knows the deal. Would this fly in Calgary? Years ago, we would negotiate a rate before even getting on the table, which included the door fee. Now, everything seems to be extra, and tacked on after agreeing to something, which leaves a really bad taste in the client's mouth. I mean, we just agreed on a price, what do you mean it didn't include a massage ?
 
Teri,
LOL... my 2 cents worth... some massageplanet members will chew you up and spit you out if you contradict them or are not 100% perfect in their eyes. They'll also cross the street if it means saving $5. But at the end of the day there are some really nice guys here on massageplanet that will go to bat for you once they know you. You gotta roll with the punches and stand up for yourself and not let it get to you. The opinions (and they are just opinions) here represent only a small fraction of your clients.
 
I think that you're a being a bit harsh. I know it is a two way street, but there are a number of businesses and independants, who do upsell you once you have already paid assuming that you are getting certain services. It would be nice if everyone was just upfront and say for $XX you will receive ...... Simple as that. When it is that you are spend your hard earned money, you want to know that you are getting what you bargained for. Too many times it happens, that is why a few pooners are a bit more sensitive to the subject when it is brought up.

No one is suggesting that everyone is a con artist, but I can guarantee you that every client has experienced it just as every MP/SP has been ripped off by a client as well. Just be honest and direct in what they are paying for, plain and simple. It's not rocket science. If they don't like the deal, they move on. This way there will not be bad reviews as someone feels they got ripped off as you didn't communicate what they are paying for.
 
Hello All

Ok Ok I understand and sorry if I upset anyone. And sorry for making a comment on the subject.

Teri
 
Your first comment was extremely helpful. But, like all people who've been to a studio a few times, the experiences we pooners get are not consistent and the pricing system, (I blame the City of Calgary regs and LE) can be confusing and difficult to understand. So we all get pretty frustrated. So, I'm not sorry you made a comment on the subject although I think your second comment/observation was a result of the frustration that people on both sides of the table have with getting clear info and having to do the "dance" around pricing for services.

We don't get the studio girl perspective here very often and it is a good one to have.

Lance
 
I would actually like to have more of her type of post.....like what is the best way to get the best services at a MP?

We would all like to feel comfortable right off the bat and not have to beat around the bush. What is the best way to do that? What would the girls prefer we do to handle ourselves better?

I was thinking of this a few times.....should we have a section of this site that the providers can ask us questions or opinions or is that just the general section?
 
The $95 gives you a guaranteed happy ending. I am nearly 100% sure that $95 gives you a hj but with her clothes all on. For my $40 tip, it was topless.

This is standard Calgary rates. I try not to skimp on 5 or 10 bucks in the hopes that it pays off with a good experience. Usually I am just hoping, but sometimes it does pay off. I did see Teri a while back, and she was good VFM at these rates.
 
...licated in Calgary. No need to go to Van. Edmonton is closer and a lot easier to get what ya want. I never pay door fee up front. Just talk with girl agree on price for services requested. Usually pay total at end of session Done, simple. Also no street clothes here? Just sexy outfits and lingiere.
 
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  39. wonderspa:
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  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
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  41. AliceSpa:
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  42. Lulu1980:
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  43. wilson holistic centre:
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  44. Nu spring spa888:
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  45. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, NANCY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. NANCY is a curvy and very friendly Spanish girl, who has all the versatile skills you need. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
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