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[stripfan]

Flawed ivermectin preprint highlights challenges of COVID drug studies

The study’s withdrawal from a preprint platform deals a blow to the anti-parasite drug’s chances as a COVID treatment, researchers say.

www.nature.com

Can ivermectin be used to treat or prevent COVID-19?

From Federal MP Craig Kelly to tennis champion Pat Cash, ivermectin has attracted attention around the world as a potential treatment for COVID-19. But is there any evidence for its use?

www.abc.net.au

Ivermectin for preventing and treating COVID-19 - PubMed

Based on the current very low- to low-certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID-19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Is this enough?

The problem with these articles is that their publishers are under the influence of Big Pharma which has done everything it can to suppress the use of Ivermectin. Also, if there are certain faults within a study such as plagiarism, then the study is at fault, but not necessarily Ivermectin. The best proof for Ivermectin is its successful use in India, as well as the success of individual doctors.

 

[imyourpuppet]

Flawed ivermectin preprint highlights challenges of COVID drug studies

The study’s withdrawal from a preprint platform deals a blow to the anti-parasite drug’s chances as a COVID treatment, researchers say.

www.nature.com

Can ivermectin be used to treat or prevent COVID-19?

From Federal MP Craig Kelly to tennis champion Pat Cash, ivermectin has attracted attention around the world as a potential treatment for COVID-19. But is there any evidence for its use?

www.abc.net.au

Ivermectin for preventing and treating COVID-19 - PubMed

Based on the current very low- to low-certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID-19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Is this enough?

You do realize that not one of those links are an actual study of patients who have taken ivermectin to treat covid19. The last link you provided was a study by some medical professionals in Germany (not sure if they are actual researchers) who looked at a few studies and made their conclusions based on analysis of those studies. No actual scientific research has been done to disqualify ivermectin as an effective treatment in early onset. Which is why over 15 countries have approved the drug nation wide as a treatment. And in almost all of those countries case numbers, hospitalizations and deaths are on the decline.
The biggest hindrance I saw in studies was that ivermectin needs to be given in doses that are larger than the approved health safety guidelines. I think that is why countries like the US and Canada haven't approved it yet. Amongst other reasons - like big pharma influence.

 

[imyourpuppet]

Wake up idiots
The vaccines are causing the variants!

That's possible but we don't know that for sure.
For instance it's also plausible that Chinese/UN agents are deliberately letting the lab virus loose in certain jurisdictions around the world.

 

[xtc27]

You do realize that not one of those links are an actual study of patients who have taken ivermectin to treat covid19. The last link you provided was a study by some medical professionals in Germany (not sure if they are actual researchers) who looked at a few studies and made their conclusions based on analysis of those studies. No actual scientific research has been done to disqualify ivermectin as an effective treatment in early onset. Which is why over 15 countries have approved the drug nation wide as a treatment. And in almost all of those countries case numbers, hospitalizations and deaths are on the decline.
The biggest hindrance I saw in studies was that ivermectin needs to be given in doses that are larger than the approved health safety guidelines. I think that is why countries like the US and Canada haven't approved it yet. Amongst other reasons - like big pharma influence.

Nature.com= extremely credible source… if they say study = flawed, it likely was…

Since original paper touting ivermectin = withdrawn… & fact is, it’s anti-parasite, not antiviral…. Logical that we just move on…

BUT!

… conspiracy theorists please note: stock price manipulation = very profitable! Sanofi $$$ shot up after fake news re Ivermectin…

IVOMEC - price - share - stock-market

Discover the listed company that owns IVOMEC, and the evolution of the share price and dividend. Discover the identity and the sector of activity of IVOMEC.

www.allbrands.markets

… a few ppl get sick & die, but I get rich… what’s the harm?

 

[imyourpuppet]

Nature.com= extremely credible source… if they say study = flawed, it likely was…

Since original paper touting ivermectin = withdrawn… & fact is, it’s anti-parasite, not antiviral…. Logical that we just move on…

BUT!

… conspiracy theorists please note: stock price manipulation = very profitable! Sanofi $$$ shot up after fake news re Ivermectin…

IVOMEC - price - share - stock-market

Discover the listed company that owns IVOMEC, and the evolution of the share price and dividend. Discover the identity and the sector of activity of IVOMEC.

www.allbrands.markets

… a few ppl get sick & die, but I get rich… what’s the harm?

Nature is not the credible source it once was. None of these were actual scientific studies. How can you credibly refute scientific results without doing your own experiments?
BTW there are dozens of scientific studies on the use of ivermectin, but nothing of a significant clinical nature. That will change soon. There are also countless anecdotal studies from individual physicians around the world.
By the end of 2021 I will predict more countries will be authorizing ivermectin as a therapeutic. Canada, US, Germany, France, UK doubtful - big pharma has too much clout.

 

[xtc27]

Nature is not the credible source it once was. None of these were actual scientific studies. How can you credibly refute scientific results without doing your own experiments?
BTW there are dozens of scientific studies on the use of ivermectin, but nothing of a significant clinical nature. That will change soon. There are also countless anecdotal studies from individual physicians around the world.
By the end of 2021 I will predict more countries will be authorizing ivermectin as a therapeutic. Canada, US, Germany, France, UK doubtful - big pharma has too much clout.

Yup. Clinical study says ivermectin didn’t work:

Effect of Ivermectin on Time to Resolution of Symptoms Among Adults With Mild COVID-19

This randomized trial compares the effects of ivermectin vs placebo on time to symptom resolution within 21 days among patients with mild COVID-19.

jamanetwork.com

… personally, I try 2 avoid confirmation bias… I just search 4 credible sources, look @ results… if u just reject everything that disagrees, yer not lookng 4 truth

… if u set bar 4 truth higher than nature.com… u hafta also reject everyone in favour of ivermectin … let’s face it, original paper = withdrawn now
b nice if it worked… but it don’t

 

[MorningWood]

Wake up idiots
The vaccines are causing the variants!

That's doubtful. Check out this article. The currently predominant variants appeared towards the beginning of this year before any meaningful levels of vaccination in the population.

COVID-19 Variants: What’s New and Why We’re Still Concerned

New COVID-19 variants and subvariants continue to be more contagious, but healthcare providers are learning more and fighting back. Here’s why and how COVID-19 continues to evolve.

health.clevelandclinic.org

 

[Happyman]

Finally see some good news. The vaccines seems like working

Ontario reports under 600 new COVID-19 cases for 3rd straight day

Ontario reports nearly 800 new COVID-19 cases, 10 deaths
The number shoots up again, after the long week end. Could be worse in two weeks time.

 

[xtc27]

Ontario reports nearly 800 new COVID-19 cases, 10 deaths
The number shoots up again, after the long week end. Could be worse in two weeks time.

Could be…. But WoW avg down now, from 728 to 722.

Curve = plateauing…

Pessimists pointed 2 long weekend… sure… so if this= catchup day… huh, # = not that high

… checkout graph showong Toronto, YR, Durham, Peel… trend line points slightly down on right side (Sep 9)

Dataset - Ontario Data Catalogue

covid-19.ontario.ca

… hopefully this will get yer mpa 2 drop her mask…

 

[mar91]

Maybe the measles

I had to look it up and check as I wasn't sure. From what I found there isn't a cure but there is a vaccine to help protect against catching the measles. Here is a quote of what I found:

"There's no specific treatment for an established measles infection. However, some measures can be taken to protect vulnerable individuals who have been exposed to the virus.

• Post-exposure vaccination. Nonimmunized people, including infants, may be given the measles vaccination within 72 hours of exposure to the measles virus to provide protection against the disease. If measles still develops, the illness usually has milder symptoms and lasts for a shorter time.
• Immune serum globulin. Pregnant women, infants and people with weakened immune systems who are exposed to the virus may receive an injection of proteins (antibodies) called immune serum globulin. When given within six days of exposure to the virus, these antibodies can prevent measles or make symptoms less severe."

 

[goodtogo1962]

Japan is using Ivermechtin, not giving the jab anymore.

 

[OppaiLover]

Japan is using Ivermechtin, not giving the jab anymore.

No they are not. And yes they stilll are. What else you got?

 

[DeliJoe]

"
Ivermectin Suitable for All Treatment Stages

Since early on, the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) has been trying to get the truth out about ivermectin. The FLCCC's prophylaxis and early outpatient COVID-19 protocol is known as I-MASK+22 while the hospital treatment is called I-MATH+.23 All include ivermectin. As noted by the FLCCC in a news release:24

"The data shows the ability of the drug Ivermectin to prevent COVID-19, to keep those with early symptoms from progressing to the hyper-inflammatory phase of the disease, and even to help critically ill patients recover.

… numerous clinical studies — including peer-reviewed randomized controlled trials — showed large magnitude benefits of Ivermectin in prophylaxis, early treatment and also in late-stage disease. Taken together … dozens of clinical trials that have now emerged from around the world are substantial enough to reliably assess clinical efficacy."

FLCCC president and chief medical officer Dr. Pierre Kory has testified to the benefits of ivermectin before a number of COVID-19 panels, including the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs in December 202025 and the National Institutes of Health COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel in January 2021.26
The two protocols — I-MASK+27 and I-MATH+28 — are available for download on the FLCCC Alliance website in multiple languages. The clinical and scientific rationale for the I-MATH+ hospital protocol has also been peer-reviewed and was published in the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine29 in mid-December 2020.
Strong Evidence for Ivermectin
April 24 through 25, 2021, Dr. Tess Lawrie, director of Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd.,30 hosted the first International Ivermectin for COVID Conference online.31
Twelve medical experts32 from around the world — including Kory — shared their knowledge, reviewing mechanism of action, protocols for prevention and treatment, including so-called long-hauler syndrome, research findings and real world data. All of the lectures, which were recorded via Zoom, can be viewed on Bird-Group.org.33
A one-page summary of the clinical trial evidence for ivermectin is available on the FLCCC website,34 while a listing of all ivermectin trials done to date, with links to the published studies, can be found on c19Ivermectin.com.35 So, what does the evidence show? In summary, studies have demonstrated ivermectin:36
• Lowers viral load.
• Inhibits replication of many viruses, including SARS-CoV-2 and seasonal influenza viruses. An observational study37 from Bangladesh, which looked at ivermectin as a pre-exposure prophylaxis for COVID-19 among health care workers, found only four of the 58 volunteers who took 12 mg of ivermectin once per month for four months developed mild COVID-19 symptoms, compared to 44 of the 60 health care workers who had declined the medication.
• Inhibits inflammation through several pathways and protects against organ damage.
• Prevents transmission of SARS-CoV-2 when taken before or after exposure.
• Speeds recovery and lowers risk of hospitalization and death in COVID-19 patients — The average reduction in mortality, based on 18 trials, is 75%.38 A WHO-sponsored review39 suggests ivermectin can reduce COVID-19 mortality by as much as 83%.
Who's Actually Following the Science?
As noted in an August 3, 2021, review paper in New Microbes New Infections, titled "Ivermectin: A Multifaceted Drug of Nobel-Prize Honored Distinction With Indicated Efficacy Against a New Global Scourge, COVID-19":40

"In 2015, the Nobel Committee for Physiology or Medicine, in its only award for treatments of infectious diseases since six decades prior, honored the discovery of ivermectin (IVM), a multifaceted drug deployed against some of the world's most devastating tropical diseases.

Since March 2020, when IVM was first used against a new global scourge, COVID-19, more than 20 randomized clinical trials (RCTs) have tracked such inpatient and outpatient treatments. Six of seven meta-analyses of IVM treatment RCTs reporting in 2021 found notable reductions in COVID-19 fatalities, with a mean 31% relative risk of mortality vs. controls.

During mass IVM treatments in Peru, excess deaths fell by a mean of 74% over 30 days in its ten states with the most extensive treatments. Reductions in deaths correlated with the extent of IVM distributions in all 25 states with p < 0.002.

Sharp reductions in morbidity using IVM were also observed in two animal models, of SARS-CoV-2 and a related betacoronavirus. The indicated biological mechanism of IVM, competitive binding with SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, is likely non-epitope specific, possibly yielding full efficacy against emerging viral mutant strains."

Despite the evidence, the American Medical Association (AMA), the American Pharmacists Association (APhA) and the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists (ASHP) are now banding together to call on doctors to immediately stop prescribing ivermectin for COVID outside of clinical trials.41
Hopefully, doctors will evaluate the evidence for themselves and do what makes sense and is best for their patients, rather than cater to Big Pharma. Indeed, as the U.S. wants to eliminate all use of ivermectin, other countries are starting to use more of it. India, for example, has added ivermectin for COVID-19 to its list of essential medicines.
The Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association also added ivermectin to its home treatment protocol August 13, 2021, and Indonesia's government not only authorized the use of the drug but also created a website showing real-time availability of the drug. Hospitals in Indonesia started using ivermectin July 22, 2021. By the first week of August, cases and deaths were plummeting.42"

- Dr. Joseph Mercola

 

[Toucan]

"
Ivermectin Suitable for All Treatment Stages

Since early on, the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) has been trying to get the truth out about ivermectin. The FLCCC's prophylaxis and early outpatient COVID-19 protocol is known as I-MASK+22 while the hospital treatment is called I-MATH+.23 All include ivermectin. As noted by the FLCCC in a news release:24


FLCCC president and chief medical officer Dr. Pierre Kory has testified to the benefits of ivermectin before a number of COVID-19 panels, including the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs in December 202025 and the National Institutes of Health COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel in January 2021.26
The two protocols — I-MASK+27 and I-MATH+28 — are available for download on the FLCCC Alliance website in multiple languages. The clinical and scientific rationale for the I-MATH+ hospital protocol has also been peer-reviewed and was published in the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine29 in mid-December 2020.
Strong Evidence for Ivermectin
April 24 through 25, 2021, Dr. Tess Lawrie, director of Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd.,30 hosted the first International Ivermectin for COVID Conference online.31
Twelve medical experts32 from around the world — including Kory — shared their knowledge, reviewing mechanism of action, protocols for prevention and treatment, including so-called long-hauler syndrome, research findings and real world data. All of the lectures, which were recorded via Zoom, can be viewed on Bird-Group.org.33
A one-page summary of the clinical trial evidence for ivermectin is available on the FLCCC website,34 while a listing of all ivermectin trials done to date, with links to the published studies, can be found on c19Ivermectin.com.35 So, what does the evidence show? In summary, studies have demonstrated ivermectin:36
• Lowers viral load.
• Inhibits replication of many viruses, including SARS-CoV-2 and seasonal influenza viruses. An observational study37 from Bangladesh, which looked at ivermectin as a pre-exposure prophylaxis for COVID-19 among health care workers, found only four of the 58 volunteers who took 12 mg of ivermectin once per month for four months developed mild COVID-19 symptoms, compared to 44 of the 60 health care workers who had declined the medication.
• Inhibits inflammation through several pathways and protects against organ damage.
• Prevents transmission of SARS-CoV-2 when taken before or after exposure.
• Speeds recovery and lowers risk of hospitalization and death in COVID-19 patients — The average reduction in mortality, based on 18 trials, is 75%.38 A WHO-sponsored review39 suggests ivermectin can reduce COVID-19 mortality by as much as 83%.
Who's Actually Following the Science?
As noted in an August 3, 2021, review paper in New Microbes New Infections, titled "Ivermectin: A Multifaceted Drug of Nobel-Prize Honored Distinction With Indicated Efficacy Against a New Global Scourge, COVID-19":40




Despite the evidence, the American Medical Association (AMA), the American Pharmacists Association (APhA) and the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists (ASHP) are now banding together to call on doctors to immediately stop prescribing ivermectin for COVID outside of clinical trials.41
Hopefully, doctors will evaluate the evidence for themselves and do what makes sense and is best for their patients, rather than cater to Big Pharma. Indeed, as the U.S. wants to eliminate all use of ivermectin, other countries are starting to use more of it. India, for example, has added ivermectin for COVID-19 to its list of essential medicines.
The Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association also added ivermectin to its home treatment protocol August 13, 2021, and Indonesia's government not only authorized the use of the drug but also created a website showing real-time availability of the drug. Hospitals in Indonesia started using ivermectin July 22, 2021. By the first week of August, cases and deaths were plummeting.42"

- Dr. Joseph Mercola

Repeat after me:

Medication is not a replacement for vaccination

Avoiding vaccination creates new variants even with medication

 

[OppaiLover]

"
Ivermectin Suitable for All Treatment Stages

Since early on, the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) has been trying to get the truth out about ivermectin. The FLCCC's prophylaxis and early outpatient COVID-19 protocol is known as I-MASK+22 while the hospital treatment is called I-MATH+.23 All include ivermectin. As noted by the FLCCC in a news release:24


FLCCC president and chief medical officer Dr. Pierre Kory has testified to the benefits of ivermectin before a number of COVID-19 panels, including the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs in December 202025 and the National Institutes of Health COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel in January 2021.26
The two protocols — I-MASK+27 and I-MATH+28 — are available for download on the FLCCC Alliance website in multiple languages. The clinical and scientific rationale for the I-MATH+ hospital protocol has also been peer-reviewed and was published in the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine29 in mid-December 2020.
Strong Evidence for Ivermectin
April 24 through 25, 2021, Dr. Tess Lawrie, director of Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd.,30 hosted the first International Ivermectin for COVID Conference online.31
Twelve medical experts32 from around the world — including Kory — shared their knowledge, reviewing mechanism of action, protocols for prevention and treatment, including so-called long-hauler syndrome, research findings and real world data. All of the lectures, which were recorded via Zoom, can be viewed on Bird-Group.org.33
A one-page summary of the clinical trial evidence for ivermectin is available on the FLCCC website,34 while a listing of all ivermectin trials done to date, with links to the published studies, can be found on c19Ivermectin.com.35 So, what does the evidence show? In summary, studies have demonstrated ivermectin:36
• Lowers viral load.
• Inhibits replication of many viruses, including SARS-CoV-2 and seasonal influenza viruses. An observational study37 from Bangladesh, which looked at ivermectin as a pre-exposure prophylaxis for COVID-19 among health care workers, found only four of the 58 volunteers who took 12 mg of ivermectin once per month for four months developed mild COVID-19 symptoms, compared to 44 of the 60 health care workers who had declined the medication.
• Inhibits inflammation through several pathways and protects against organ damage.
• Prevents transmission of SARS-CoV-2 when taken before or after exposure.
• Speeds recovery and lowers risk of hospitalization and death in COVID-19 patients — The average reduction in mortality, based on 18 trials, is 75%.38 A WHO-sponsored review39 suggests ivermectin can reduce COVID-19 mortality by as much as 83%.
Who's Actually Following the Science?
As noted in an August 3, 2021, review paper in New Microbes New Infections, titled "Ivermectin: A Multifaceted Drug of Nobel-Prize Honored Distinction With Indicated Efficacy Against a New Global Scourge, COVID-19":40




Despite the evidence, the American Medical Association (AMA), the American Pharmacists Association (APhA) and the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists (ASHP) are now banding together to call on doctors to immediately stop prescribing ivermectin for COVID outside of clinical trials.41
Hopefully, doctors will evaluate the evidence for themselves and do what makes sense and is best for their patients, rather than cater to Big Pharma. Indeed, as the U.S. wants to eliminate all use of ivermectin, other countries are starting to use more of it. India, for example, has added ivermectin for COVID-19 to its list of essential medicines.
The Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association also added ivermectin to its home treatment protocol August 13, 2021, and Indonesia's government not only authorized the use of the drug but also created a website showing real-time availability of the drug. Hospitals in Indonesia started using ivermectin July 22, 2021. By the first week of August, cases and deaths were plummeting.42"

- Dr. Joseph Mercola

Joseph Mercola is an Osteopath, not virologist or immunologist. He's not even a MD.
He's made millions off peddling medical misinformation and supplements that don't work to people like you.

And FLCCC is where you're getting your information? See some lines below from the disclaimer on their website.

"Nothing on this Website provides medical advice or any form of diagnosis or treatment of any kind to web users."
"While clinical experience and research to-date is promising, these products have not been proven to be safe and effective by prospective, randomized double-blind, placebo-controlled studies acceptable to US medical associations and regulatory bodies."

Currently, ivermectin trials have been too small to draw conclusions. That's not to say it doesn't work, but there is no real evidence right now to suggest that it does.

 

[imthedude]

That's possible but we don't know that for sure.
For instance it's also plausible that Chinese/UN agents are deliberately letting the lab virus loose in certain jurisdictions around the world.

lolwut

 

[Hornet]

Repeat after me:

Medication is not a replacement for vaccination

Avoiding vaccination creates new variants even with medication

Their logic is equivalent to “why wear a condom if there is penicillin and other drugs to deal with it?”

 

[imyourpuppet]

Yup. Clinical study says ivermectin didn’t work:

Effect of Ivermectin on Time to Resolution of Symptoms Among Adults With Mild COVID-19

This randomized trial compares the effects of ivermectin vs placebo on time to symptom resolution within 21 days among patients with mild COVID-19.

jamanetwork.com

… personally, I try 2 avoid confirmation bias… I just search 4 credible sources, look @ results… if u just reject everything that disagrees, yer not lookng 4 truth

… if u set bar 4 truth higher than nature.com… u hafta also reject everyone in favour of ivermectin … let’s face it, original paper = withdrawn now
b nice if it worked… but it don’t

The median age of the patients in this study was 37. These are low risk patients presenting with mild symptoms of the virus.
Here's all the proof that you need right here

https://ivmmeta.com/

This is the largest clinical trial for Ivermectin. 500 patients all over 50 with co-morbidities. Expected to be completed in December.

ClinicalTrials.gov

www.clinicaltrials.gov

 

[xtc27]

The median age of the patients in this study was 37. These are low risk patients presenting with mild symptoms of the virus.
Here's all the proof that you need right here

https://ivmmeta.com/

This is the largest clinical trial for Ivermectin. 500 patients all over 50 with co-morbidities. Expected to be completed in December.

ClinicalTrials.gov

www.clinicaltrials.gov

… so, generously, jury = still out… If u take it, yer kinda guinea pig then…

If I got breakthru infection … not gonna take horse medicine… Id take natural immune boosters, like red ginseng… allot… like u should just b walkng around w a boner constantly amount of ginseng…

Then @ least can entertain yerself while stuck @ home … … mebbe try out those online services on LL… geez, mebbe find one who isnt fake!

 

[martyMcfly14]

The virus is singled out because of its transmissibility and having a passport for it will supposedly reduce it. Non-essential establishments are the target because these are the businesses that have shut down the longest and the passports are supposed to help keep them open during the colder months.

As controlling as it sounds, I'm willing to give it a try because I took the shot and am curious to see how it all plays out towards the end of the year. Only time will tell if taking the jab will pay off for me but knowing how things played out last year, I am still very skeptical. I've given every mandate and bylaw a chance at the beginning even if each one of them has so far done nothing to improve the quality of our lives. The masks, the capacity limits and social distancing measures enforced by businesses last year did not stop us from locking down for 8 months. The ICUs still filled up in the winter and spring in spite of all that. So let's see if the vaccine passports will do the trick in the fall. Let's see if it will benefit the businesses and protect them from lockdowns because lord knows the government loves to mandate bylaws under the guise that it will be beneficial for us. If we lockdown despite our high vaccine rates and mandatory passports, shame on me for taking the vax. Shame on me for falling for it again. But hey, I guess travelling overseas will be easier for a vaxxed person.

Some what time latter in 2023, Covid ended up being a hoax. Just look at the traffic. Scam